If Pedro Martinez retired today would he be a first-ballot Hall of Famer?

Question

why or why not?

Answer 1

of course. people seem to think that wins are a big facter but they are only a small contributer. and the past is really what matters. he has a great winning percentage and a great strikeout to walk ratio. its a combination of things that make him a first ballot hall of famer. not just wins and what he is doing now. espn rates him the 11th best pitcher all time.

Answer 2

yeah he's in....based on post-season and the fact that he was the koufax of his era.....

Answer 3

Yes. If you look at his track-record, he has been in the big 3 in dominant starters in the past 15-20 years. In my mind, the most dominant starters were Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, and Randy Johnson. It would be like leaving Sandy Koufax out of the HOF because he only played 9 years. Go to baseballreference.com for his stats, multiple years he posted ERA's of under 2.00.

Answer 4

no i dont think so look how bad he is with the mets, his career is not good enough to be a first ballot HOF

Answer 5

First ballot? No,  he isn't  the type that makes it easy.  You have to be an all time great to do that. Pedro is good he is very good but far from a Koufax or a Nolan Ryan. He will most likely be in the hall of fame but not on the first ballot.

Answer 6

NO he has ruined his past great career with his crappy performances on the Mets

Answer 7

i think not. he doesnt have enough wins, although he is a great pitcher.

Answer 8

212 wins, 95 losses, 3064 K's/726 BB's, 2.86 ERA, 1.04 WHIP

I think yes he would. I know everyone wants 300 wins for a starting pitcher into Hall of Fame, but those numbers are solid...

Answer 9

without a doubt.

at one point (with the bosox in 99 and 00), he was the greatest pitcher in his era, which included the likes of clemens, johnson, maddux, etc.

- in 99 he got the triple crown in pitching (which hadnt been done since 1978)

- from 99-00 he had 10 straight appearances where he struck out at least 10 batters

- one of 8 pitchers to have 300 K's in a season more than once

- Game 5 vs Cleveland in the ALDS in 99. enough said.

- in 2000 posted an ERA of 1.79. lowest since 78. (remember, this was the steroid era too) clemens was 2nd that year with a 3.70 ERA

- 4th pitcher ever to have 3000 strikeouts while giving up less than 1000 walks

these are some of the things he's accomplished. what might bring is stock down is if he continues to be injured as a met and if the whole "throwing zimmer down" thing comes back to bite him.

also, one individual mentioned that he doesnt have enough wins. in baseball, a starting pitchers' win total is very subjective. you could give up 5 runs and as long as your team scores 6 you win. or on the other hand, you could only give up 1 run and still lose the game 1-0. the number of games won also doesnt include the times a pitcher leaves the game with the lead and the bullpen blowing the games. so, i wouldn't put too much weight on wins. focus more on ERA and whip.

ps. i'm not even a redsox fan or a mets fan. im actually a jays fan, but, this guy is an incredible pitcher.

Answer 10

I think he is    When yoyu look at how dominant he was with the Red Sox, and his great winning percentage , he definitely should be

Answer 11

absoluty not, hes not as good as he used to be,injuries, not engough winss

Answer 12

I said yes because he was very dominant with the bean town back in the late 90's. This is a tough one. I said "Yes" to him. His career from the past is different from today stats. It all depends on him being healthy all season.

Answer 13

No, too many injuries.

Answer 14

I say no doubt.

Answer 15

no

Answer 16

He should be. I don't know if he will be since voters are so obsessed with wins.

His wins aren't that great, but here's an interesting stat: His ERA+ is 157. That is the greatest in baseball history. In case you don't know, ERA+ is his ERA compared to others in the league and it's a park adjusted factor. League average is 100 and you want it to be high.

For those who still don't think he's deserving in Cooperstown on the first ballot, Pedro is 3rd all time in winning %, 3rd all-time in WHIP, 3rd in K/9 IP, and 3rd in K/BB ratio. This is all while playing in an era of juiced players and he's doing better then legends who played in eras decades ago when offense was much harder to come by.

Answer 17

Personally I would never vote for him.  He is the master of the five inning start.  When you look at his numbers you will find that he has only pitched 46 complete games in his 17 year career.  Hardly hall of fame stature.  With a little over 200 career wins, there are a great many pitchers with a lot more victories who are still waiting for the call to Cooperstown.

Pedro is a fraud.

Answer 18

no becuz he wouldnt get enough votes

Answer 19

not enough wins so not first ballot but eventuallly a HOF