Or two other good ones: South Africa and the Ottoman Empire? Have these people read a history book? The Ottoman Empire crashed and descended into warfare and genocide. South Africa has the highest rate of violence in the Western World and all of Africa with poverty, homelessness, anti-immigrant tendencies, riots, HIV, prostitution and lack of housing. Yugoslavia was forced together by WWI and Communist rule against the will of Kosovans, Serbs, Croatians and other groups, culminating in nearly a decade of warfare in the nineties as well as genocide against Kosovans.
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