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If g*y people are confident in their sexuality why ?

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Why do some dress different than their gender. Like Ellen Degeneres. She dresses like a man but seems so confident in who she is. A woman. She takes on the male figurehead in her relationship with Portia. That just confuses me. I see a lot of wemon who dress masculine that are g*y and some men who dress feminine who are g*y. If they are ok with being g*y, why do they dress this way. I don't understand any of it since I am straight.

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  1. I couldn't have said it better Choux Pastry Heart!

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  2. It dose not have anything to do with your sexual orientation. It is the way you feel comfortable and if you like the way you dress then go for it. It goes the same by your personality. Why would anyone degrade themselves because of what other people think about them? Also not a lot of g*y people do this and I don't Ellen Degeneres dresses like a man.  

  3. It has nothing to do with them being g*y, its just the style they like.

  4. That has nothing to do with ones orientation.  Those are gender roles that society dictates for us.  Society says how men and women should act, and most do act according to that.  However, some people aren't comfy with those roles and live how they see fit rather than how antiquated societal norms tell them to live.  

  5. It's like this. g*y people may dress like their opposite gender but it doesn't mean that they hate their own gender. Like with Ellen Degeneres. She acts like a woman but dresses like a man.

    I've met guys that are very femmenine but don't hate the fact that they're guys. They accept themselves for who they are.

    It's just their lifestyle and they are comfortable with it. It's that simple.

  6. Just because you're straight doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to understand it. It's pretty simple. There are two possible explanations, they might both happen.

    Because social ideology promotes stereotypical gender roles and conservative relationship values, everybody in society believes or values that a relationship consists of a male and a female. Don't take this literally, i mean that subconsciously everybody sees a relationship as a pairing of masculine and feminine. The fact that g*y people are in an unconventional relationship does not make them immune to social ideology, which is forced onto us from day one. This is simply translated into the way a lot of g*y people behave. It's not a consciousus decision, it's just something we've all learned throughout our lives and we behave accordingly and subconciously. It doesn't have anything to do with being proud or ashamed, it's just how we've been taught to relate to each other.

    Either that or a part of being g*y is that merging of the two genders. In which case, it's not a learned behaviour and still has nothing to do with pride or shame.


  7. We may be confident in our sexuality but we are still individuals and will wear whatever we're most comfortable in. You can tell boat loads about what a person wears and how they hold themselves.  

  8. Since I know someone thats g*y really well (I'm straight), in a way, they kind of find it s**y to look like the opposite s*x and still take pride in their own s*x.  They also wan't to make it obvious that they are g*y so that people don't bother asking questions.  Women that are L*****n and dress masculine, dress masculine because it makes their sexuality obvious and also attracts other L*****n women.  With g*y realtionships, often someone takes the role of a man and the other takes the role of a woman.

  9. 1. Ellen Degeneres does not dress like a man! A woman with any sense in style would realize this! Those suits are tailored perfectly to fit a woman's body, if she dressed like a man she would look like c**p. Also, how do you know she takes on the "male figurehead" in her relationship? Just because she doesn't wear skirts doesn't mean she's gender bending.

    2. This is the 21st century, women embrace pants as well as suits and other menswear, thank you Coco Chanel =] (for those of you who don't know, it is indeed Coco Chanel who introduced menswear tailored to flatter women =] )

    3. Why do you think women=skirts and dresses? Gender is so much more than clothes. I am a girl, I am proud of it, and I am a L*****n, I'm proud of that too, I am proud of who I am, the person I am, does wearing pants and suit jackets make me a different person? Of course not, I'm still a woman, except that in a suit I've gone from being a woman to a woman who looks d@mn fine in a suit =] Does that mean I'm butch? HAH! No, if you saw my shoe collection, you'd realize I'm not butch. I wear skirts now and then, and dresses ocassionally. But really, what girl doesn't love a pair of nice fitting jeans? And pair those nice fitting jeans with a nice button down shirt and a suit jacket and BAM you're ready for the office. It's all so practical. Anyways, I'm getting off topic here, the point is, women who are confident are confident enough to wear what they want w/out worrying about social norms and what other people think, and women in menswear DO NOT look like men, they look fabulous =] (thank you coco chanel again!)

      

  10. People dress to express who they are.  I dress pretty macho, some guys don't.  It's a personal preferance!!  :@)

  11. First of all, there's no law that lists what qualifies as men's clothing and what qualifies as women's clothing. People should be able to wear whatever the heck they want.  

  12. Maybe because they're comfortable that way. It's their life, let them live it the way they want to. We all have our own lives to live.

  13. Sexuality is a spectrum.  Neither of us dress feminine (we are male) -- but I can't feel what other people feel -- so I am sure there are reasons for those that do.  So I have no problem with anyone -- most of my friends have always been straight males.

    Kind thoughts,

    Hermes

  14. Gender presentation and sexuality do not necessarily go hand in hand. And this is not exclusive to g*y and L*****n people. For example, there are women who dress very masculine and butch and they like men. And there are women who are L*****n who are feminine. I wouldnt call Ellen butch though- shes just like any woman who doesnt prefer to wear dresses.

    Id call KD Lang butch. She wears mens suits a lot these days.

    Equally there are men who enjoy wearing ladies dresses and underwear at home and they are straight in their sexuality.

    Some women like to dress like men. Some like to dress more femininely, while some dress differently on different days, depending on their mood. The world is far too complex to just box everyone into he/she femme/masculine and how boring would it be if I was to tell you you had to wear a dress and act feminine all the time?


  15. WOW! People dress and act in a way that makes them comfortable and feel like themselves. Ellen dresses manly because she wants to dress manly its who she is and if she dressed and took on a roll of someone she is not she wouldnt be happy. Thats just how it is you have your g*y guys who dress and act fiminine and those who dress and act manly and you have the g*y girls who dress and act fiminine and the ones who dress and act manly its all about who you are.

  16. Who decided that one gender had to dress a certain way?  Do you wear pants, od are you still stuck in times when women were not allowed?  Ellen still looks very much a woman to me....and the fact that she is comfortable enough in her own skin to dress in a manner that pleases her, well that right there shows how confident and "ok with being g*y" she is.  What does how a person dresses have to do with their confidence in their sexuality anyway : )

  17. I think you're confusing sexuality with gender identity. They are both fluid scales- sexuality has homosexual on one end and heterosexual on the other, and gender identity has masculine on one end and feminine on the other. Any person can be at any point on both of the scales. The masculine g*y woman and the feminine g*y man are just stereotypes.

  18. they are confident because they have had one of the biggest things in there life of coming out,  they just dont care what people think, next time buy what u like  not what people want you to wear!

  19. Gender and sexual orientation are two very separate things. How one dresses and what s*x they are attracted to are completely unrelated. There are drag queens who are into women. There are "butch" looking women who are completely straight. Someone's manner or dress really doesn't say anything about how comfortable they are with their sexuality. Someone who crosses gender boundaries is obviously comfortable enough to assert themselves and portray themselves how they want to.  

  20. How we dress doesn't mean that we are uncomfortable with who we are. It simply means that that is how we wish to dress.

    Straight people should stop wondering about why we as g**s wear clothes of the opposite gender and try it for a week themselves. Then maybe you wouldn't ask dumb questions and leave us in peace.

  21. they are simply comfortable that way.

    i know many straight girls who are simply tom boys and dress like boys, some are even mistaken for boys.

    they are just comfortable like this.

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