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If it is not possible to chose to believe or disbelieve then do we still get sent to h**l ?

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Simply for not doing something that is impossible? Or do we have to lie to ourselves ? Pretend? Does that count?

That seems rather unfair to me.

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  1. IMO, It is possible to choose to believe or disbelieve.


  2. Better to follow your conscience than to pretend, yet Jesus told us those who reject him on earth shall be rejected in heaven.  It is a clear choice:  if you don't believe after being taught the truth, the lie shall torment you eternally.  Therein is free will writ large.  If you know the consequence and ignore it, you have effectively thrown open the gates of h**l for yourself.

    Those who lead good lives, never knowing Jesus' love, are naturally blameless and G-d shall judge them accordingly, I would like to believe.

  3. that is the point of religion their is no real prove that they really exist and this is what God wants to do he want us to believe in him with out any reason and then we will be rewarded on the day of judgement  

  4. If you really cared what was going to happen, you would be studying the Bible to prepare yourself.  Why is it impossible for you to believe in God but possible for you to believe in being sent to h**l?  That makes no sense what so ever.  Here is the reality, when you die, you are dead.  Your body goes back to dust and your life spirit goes back to God, since he gave it.  There will be a resurrection of all that lived and all will be judged accordingly.  Those that oppose Christ aren't sent to h**l.  The Bible uses the word Hades, which is just the grave.  You will cease to exist.  No punishment, just gone and forgotten in the world.  The only thing going into the lake is Satan, his false prophet, and death itself.  Jesus must defeat all of God's enemies.  You should really learn things before you cast judgment so fast.

  5. WAS  CAIN  NOT  TOLD  IF  HE  DOES  WELL  THEN  HE  WOULD  BE  ACCEPTED,BUT  IF  EVIL  THEN  SIN  LIETH  AT THE  DOOR.GODS  NOT  IN  HEAVEN  SAYING  LETS  MAKE  A  DEAL.HES  IN  HEAVEN  SAYING  THIS  IS  THE  DEAL.DO  YOU  TELL  YOUR  BOSS  I  DON'T  LIKE  THE  WAY  YOU  TELL  ME  WHAT TO  DO  SO  I'M    NOT  GOING  TO  DO  IT.THE  YOKE  OF  JESUS   IS  EASY  TO  BARE   AND  THE  BURDEN  LIGHT.HE  CALLS  US  HIS  FRIENDS.HE  IS  THE FRIEND  THAT  STICKS  CLOSER  THAN  A  BROTHER.  THANK  YOU  D'S

  6. We are here to pass a fairly simple test; find God. To demonstrate to the angels that a being unable to see God is able to find God in the universe. As God is unseen and the distractions of life loom large, power, money, objects, excitement it is not quite the slam dunk we thought it would be when we were all gathered together, before time, and jumped at the chance to test our shiny new free will. God said " I know what you do not". All ignored Him. We each chose our lot here on earth, not in so many words but in principal. We basically chose the path we now live out. God did not subject us to this, we did ourselves. In the end we will take what we have become and face our Maker in a judgment scenario. We will see all that we have done vs all we have given and the total worth of our lives will make us acceptable or not. Jesus Christ will redeem those who believe in him.

  7. But it is possible, one either believes or doesn't. Are you saying that you want to believe but cannot?

    If you admire the teachings of the Christ then follow them. Integrate them fully into your life. You don't have to believe all the nonsense that people tell you is necessary, just follow Him.

    If you don't agree w/ His teachings then walk away. Why let it bother you?

  8. By not making a decision to repent and follow Yeshua/Jesus, you ARE making a decision to turn away from Him.  Everyone has the opportunity to accept or reject Him.

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  9. If you have heard the truth, Jesus Christ crucified, buried, risen, seated at the right hand of the Father as redeemer, advocate, King, and High Priest.  Which You have now heard. You have the freedom to choose truth - life. or the lie - death.

    It is all your choice. You cannot pretend. God knows you better than you know yourself. He knows what you have done, are doing, and will do. Not only that He knows why.

    This is life and death. Nothing to fool around about.  So many people here joke about this and make fun of it. It is really sad. My heart aches for knowing that whether  you believe it or not This is reality, what you see with your eyes and hear with your ears is temporary, it will pass away. Jesus Christ is eternal He is the truth, the life, He is the way.

    Added:

    ....Pretended grace from natural goodness, fancied grace from priestly hands, or imaginary grace from outward ceremonies will never serve the true saint of God; he knows that the Lord would not be pleased with rivers of such oil. He goes to the olive-press of Gethsemane, and draws his supplies from Him who was crushed therein. —Morning and Evening

  10. Everyone is already destined for h**l...

    The choice is not about believing in God or h**l.

    It is about loving God and having a relationship with Him.

    It is not impossible and you do not have to pretend, to lie to yourself.

    There is a living God.

    He has made a way for us to come to Him through Jesus Christ.

    Only you can enter into this personal Spiritual relationship.

    Relationships are built on love and understanding, not fear.

    That is your choice.

  11. h**l DOES NOT EXIST.

  12. Don't you think an all-knowing God would know you're just pretending to believe?  And wouldn't an all-powerful God have been able to make you with the capacity to truly believe if he wanted to?

    It does seem rather unfair, doesn't it?  And rather illogical as well.  

    My thoughts:  This is just another indication that there is no god.

  13. This was actually one of the biggest reasons I struggled with Christianity and finally became an agnostic.

    For those who have never heard of God/Jesus etc... how is it possible to be saved? No one was ever able to satisfactorily answer that question for me either.  

  14. Faith is a choice we make.  God does not give faith to some and not to others.  We individual weigh the evidence (or lack thereof if you so believe) and make a decision to believe or not to.


  15. That is a great question I do not think it would be logical to be sent to h**l because you do not believe in it

  16. 1) Anonymous Christian is the concept by the theologian Karl Rahner (1904 - 1984) that declares that people who have never heard the Christian Gospel or even rejected it might be saved through Christ.

    2) The Christian virtue of Charity says God can pardon the unpardonable.

    Hope this helps.

    Best regards.

  17. The word "h**l" is a translation of the Aramaic word for "grave" for one. it is a recent addition to the Christian Mythology, and there is not one shred of evidence that it is real. And a tonne of literal natural evidences to support that it is just a primitive understanding of plate tectonics.

  18. I think some need to really read up on where the manmade concept of "h**l" came from.  

  19. As long as you believe you have no agency, you are putting yourself under other agencies...you are already in h**l.

  20. Heaven and h**l are states of consciousness.

    "Behold the Kingdom of God (Heaven) is within you."

    (Luke 17, v. 21)

    ... and h**l is what man makes of the world due to his ignorance.

    Simple, when you understand.

  21. we will all believe, but it will be too late for many i am afraid.

  22. Faith or rejection is up to you.

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