If labour had not have interfered with schools?

Question

in the first place and took all the power away from the teachers and parents would we have this problem in schools and the need to search them?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080714/tuk-teachers-to-get-new-search-powers-6323e80.html

Answer 1

I don't recall the Tories doing any good to the schools or helping the teachers.  As I recall, they got that idiot Woodhead in to s***w the teachers up up and saddle schools with pointless inspections and league tables (and Labour, to their shame, didn't sort the mess out or sack the idiot).

Answer 2

Lack of discipline has been steadily eroded ever since the 1970's....when it was cool and trendy to treat children as little adults....

Answer 3

they took the power away from the teachers and gave the kids 'rights' now they have tried to take they power away from the parents and where is it getting us ?   i blame the stoopid parents though at the end of the day, i know what goes in my kids bag to school and i will continue to know till the day she leaves home, if will frighten the c**p out of me when they go to high school, it really will !  x

Answer 4

Its all down to the PC fairy sandal knitters that this country is in the state it is in, when I was at school you had some fear of your teachers, one word from them and that was law, one teachers shoes could be heard coming down the hall and you knew to shut up and not give no cheek, we would not have dared take knives or alcohol to school, if we did a clip round the ear would have been coming.

We are too soft these days, no respect for teachers or parents alike.

Answer 5

Agree with Ellis. This problem began way before 1997.

Kids are behaving like this because of the way they are being brought up, not because teachers can't hit them anymore.

I do think teachers need more authority, they certainly should be able to expel horrors to 'reform' schools rather than the endless chances they get nowadays.

CRANBERRY- Yes you are right exclusions are at an all time high- but they are just 'temporary' exclusions..they let them back after a week!

Answer 6

What are you on about my love?

I finished my education under a TORY government and there was no difference then than now about what teachers are and aren't allowed to do in terms of discipline.

the only thing labour have done is put more focus on academic results and less emphasis on an all round education meaning kids who will struggle to manage their behaviour don't fit into the system.

edit:

I distinctly recall one of my primary school teachers being hauled over the coals for lobbing a piece of chalk at one kid - it wasn't acceptable then and it isn't now.

We used to run rings around our tecahers - we stapled our music teacher to his chair FFS!

and I'm afraid Haz is wrong too - exclusions from school are at an all time high - why do you think there are so many kids knocking the streets all day every day?

No Haz, I Meant permenant exclusion is at an all time high - FACT

Answer 7

Yet again this is a policy that hasn’t been thought through properly.

It’s got to the stage that teachers are not allowed to touch students for fear of accusations of assault, paedophilia, invasion of human rights, invasion of privacy etc.

How is the law going to be passed that allows a teacher to ‘pat down’ (the only effective way to search for a concealed weapon) a student without them being potentially arrested for common assault – especially when they are not found?

(Without going into too much information here drugs can be concealed in some very intimate areas – where’s the ‘stop limit’ for these proposed searches?)

Will male teachers be allowed to search female students?

How will parents react to their children being searched by ‘strangers’?

Will the teachers feel that it is safe enough to search someone for a concealed weapon?

If this law is passed then the teachers will have more powers than a PCSO or a police officer – i.e. you have to be arrested before you can be body searched by a police officer.

So will teachers be given the power to arrest?

And as ever there is the ‘overkill statement’:

"It will ensure that everyone knows that a teacher's authority in the classroom is unquestionable and teachers are clear about their right to use them."

He really doesn’t mean that does he?

Unquestionable authority – so teachers will be able to override the law of the country in the classroom?

Answer 8

Yes. Labours stinking liberalism has contibuted to this problem but i think the main causes are a bit more subtle than that.

The UK has undergone a bit of an ID crisis over the last 15 years or so which means that our american 'buddies' have been pouring their high school dross into our young kids mind and making our culture more americanised. Add to that the poor level of executable powers by the police, parents and teachers and hey pesto we've got the dissillusioned american syndrome of 'boyz in the hood' in crickleworth or wherever..

The teachers haven't helped as symbols of security and authority either by keep tantrumming and going on strike whenever they don't get their own way: -Fathers for justice dress up and climb things (like children) painting fathers again the symbol of security and authority in a stupid light,and where kids have no security they make their own, where there is no authority the have only their own self reliance and government to adhere to.

Which in their tiny little minds equals a heirarchal society based upon Survival of the fittest or most feared which will never ever stop until men start to be real men and lead the way.

it all boils down to childrens significance in the world and the role models which are supposed to enforce it. ..which our government is not responsible for.

Answer 9

You are so right, that and the Human Rights Act.

Answer 10

It's not just labour, the tories before them were just as bad. Essentially politicians only give a f**k about themselves not their country's people.

Answer 11

If a mother can't take her child to school by taxi,because she hasn't been screened by the police,how the h**l are teachers going to be able to search children!? How many lawsuits will be filed?

Answer 12

The purpose of a school is for education which is a fundamental way for class struggle: get to the top based on performance or smartness.

Unfortunately, the mother's nature of education tend to keep everyone in classes, instead of making ethnic.

Education is for those who like knowledge. Schools have to kick out all unqualified students and leave them to social workers.