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If native americans decried the hunting of the buffalo and claim to be more in tune with the natural world?

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How is it that a people who wiped out the first 30 species they came across be more in touch with the natural world or have more of a right to criticise hunting than anyone else?

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  1. Native Americans did not wipe the species out, white man did when they came to America.


  2. Honestly ROFLMAO!

    So not whites huh? Ok, lets insert some logic in there... Whites ARE native to someplace. Whites have had a history of being very destructive, to both other humans and the environment. I can assure you that whites have no doubt wiped out species of animals.

    Look, people a few thousand years ago are not mentally the same people from the past several centuries. Human thinking has the ability to change it's views on their environment. The world was changing, even if humans attributed to the loss of certain species it very well could have been that those species were already in danger of extinction for other reasons. And humans had no way of knowing that. They just knew they had to feed their families.

    And to compare people from a very long time ago to those of today and more recent history is ridiculous.

  3. First of all I dispute your contention that native americans wiped out the first 30 species they came across.

       To answer your question, the native american lives a much "greener" existence than your average american. Not only to they consume less of the world's resources, activities like hunting and fishing are done to provide food and clothing.

        By contrast, the average american hunts to get trophies to mount on the wall, drives honking gas-guzzlers for prestige, and wastes every resource available.

  4. what?  are you saying the Native Americans wiped out 30 species?

    I think you need to go back and research a few things and realize that can't be true since there was no collection of evidence of species lost in the Bearing Straight crossover.  Have fun with that.

  5. I'm afraid you are fighting an uphill battle, it is customary to teach that the Native Americans were all peaceful, in harmony with nature, at one with their brother the buffalo. But this is simply not true. In defense of elementary schools, they have limited time to teach young people with limited attention spans, so they teach the very basic concepts. However many of those student will not go on to higher learning and so will be stuck in the belief of what little they learned in the first grade.

    It is true that as soon as white settlers traded guns with the Native Americans the Natives caused a great many species to be wiped out through over hunting. This is because fur was a very lucrative trade with the white man.

    Furthermore the Disney Pocahontas that has added to the fantasy of the Native stereotype was not accurate at all, the natives were not vegetarians and long before the settlers came they hunted all sorts of animals for food and clothing, you can not be one with your brother the buffalo if you are eating him.

    To add to another myth the Natives were not defensive humble people who stood by and spoke of peace and fairness as they were being slaughtered by the white man. True many were very peaceful and willing to share their lands with the settlers. But there were many who were hostile and war-like, many who slaughtered innocent women and children. And these tribes were naturally like this long before the settlers showed up, other tribes spoke of there vicious and vile ways.

    Finally I'm not sure if John meant to use a past tense in his answer but most Native Americans currently are just as wasteful and damaging to the environment as everyone else in the world. They no longer hunt for their food, they buy their clothing in the store just like everyone else, many drive old beat up barely running gas guzzeling cars that would put the suv to shame, there are only a handful of tribes that truely do try to retain the old ways.

  6. just wanted to say one thing. history isn't always FACT! The people who write history books wouldn't want to make themselves look bad...think about it. Don't believe everything you read. have a good day! ;-)

  7. And how do you expect a Borneo native to credibly assert what may have happened in North America 20,000 years ago?

    You're just not believeable, sorry.

  8. Dex,

    The village called, please go home they miss their idiot!!

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