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If obama selected biden to help with his lack of foreign policy experience but biden was against the surge?

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What does that tell you about uncle joe's judgement visa vi foreign policy? Every objective analyst (or observer for that matter) now agrees the surge was a huge success, both militarily and politically. Of course obama was very strongly against it blunty saying he didn't see how 20,000 more troops would do any good...smooth barack, smooth...lol...McCain '08

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  1. i think obama got biden to help him(obama)

    with his speeches

    Joe's good with that

    and also handling lobbyists


  2. Any 'surge'  becomes irrelevant when the war itself is wrong. One may win a battle and loose the war. So both Obama and Joe were right talking against war.

  3. In 2004, former "Nightline" anchor Ted Koppel interviewed the keynote speaker of the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/...

    Obama said, "If you look at what has happened over the last several months, I think there is a convergence. Basically, the Bush administration has moved in the direction of its critics in trying to internationalize the reconstruction process. So, I am not sure that, on paper, the differences between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration would be significant."

    Obama continued, “All of us assume that when we make that commitment, that we have to finish the job, we owe it not only to the troops who sacrificed their lives, but also the Iraqi people. The question is, who can execute. Who has the credibility to gather its allies together and to make sure that they are willing to expand their political capital, domestically, to invest into Iraq, to send their own troops into Iraq, to pressure countries, like Iran, to deal with issues of proliferation?

    Obama thought in 2004 that Kerry would be MORE willing to do what was necessary (fight in Iraq) at the expense of political capital.

  4. I think I found your problem....

    You think war strategy and foreign policy are the same thing....this must be where Bush keeps tripping up too.....it all makes sense now.


  5. Do We really want Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid in charge of America?

  6. It shows Senator Biden's foreign policy experience has produced no sound judgment, and that Senator Obama once again showed bad judgment in selecting him for that purpose.

    How's that partition of Iraq going, senator Biden?

  7. Prepare yourself for the ads making the exact point.

  8. I don't know why the right wingers keep painting  the "surge" as a Republican victory. The surge has not been successful. The surge was supposed to give the Iraqi time to reach a political settlement. They have not done that and it is doubtful they will.

    Next lie please.  

    Obama in 08  

  9. The majority of analysts I've heard have said that the decrease in violence in Iraq is due to the Shiite awakening and cooperation between them and the Sunnis to get the extremists of each group under control (and to work together to put down AL quida in Iraq). This begin to take place months before the "surge" began to even be talked about as a new strategy. Don't you pay attention? McCain screwed up when asked about this on CBS (although they cut his s***w-up, the transcript is still available). He does not even know the timeline of events in Iraq.

  10. Democrates want us the loose the war. Yeah, I said it...


  11. Most discouraging point to me is Biden voted against the first Gulf War after Saddam invaded Kuwait.

    That is frightening.

  12. The extra troops we sent played only a small part in the decrease in violence.  There were other factors as well.

    First, we started paying our enemies to not shoot at us.  We're still paying ex-Sunni militia bribes to keep the peace.

    Second, Al-Sadr declared a cease-fire before we sent our troops.

    Third, most of the sectarian killing had already been done.

    Forth, Iraqi civilians were getting tired of the heavy-handed terrorist attacks by Al-Qeada and were turning against them, with our help (guns and money).

    I think the surge of troops certainly helped stem the violence, but it wasn't the only reason, or even the main reason.

  13. The war in Iraq is all but won we are talking about mop up and pull out now. We won this war no thanks to Democrats.

    It was General Petraus that had in his strategic Surge the Shiite and the Sunnis and the sheilks getting together to attack the extremists with the extra soldiers facilitating it and to work together to put down AL Queda in Iraq. This was testified to by Petraus before Biden and the Democrats who were trying to stop the surge that General Petraus had already started and wanted to continue.

    Had Biden and Obama had their way we would have had a major defeat, a blood bath in Iraq, and Al Queda would own Iraq now.

    Oh by the way Democrats, the economy grew at 3.3% in the second quarter. The economy was not tanking. Sorry to disappoint.

  14. He didn't pick him to help for his lack of experience, he pick him to reassure those you try to scare with the experience BS.

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