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If shias aren't muslims, why are they allowed to go on hajj? I'd refuse them visas if they're not muslims...

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because no kufaar should be in Makkah. If a shia is a kafir, why's he allowed into makkah each day?

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  1. who said shias r nonmuslims ? we r all muslims .. equal in front of Allah! .. and we have no right to judge others .. it is up to Allah to decide that !


  2. i prefer spending my vacation in swiss alps...lol


  3. because saudis are sunnis,and most saudis are worst in hypocrisy and disbelief

  4. I really feel sorry for the sordid lot who keep saying Shia's are munafiqin, or mushrikin or kaffir...

    The Muslim world is so far behind the world because of these stupid picky points.

    A Muslim is a Muslim! It is the SHADATAIN that matters. La Ilaha Illa Allah and Mohammadan Rasooloollah.

    That's it!

    The rest are differences we have, and we even have differences with our parents, partners, everyone else at times, so there is no harm in some differences between Shia and Sunnis.

    Why not start topics that will help us move forward and not keep us back in the dark ages???

  5. For Allah's sake stop that we r all Muslims alhamdulilla, it's just that they have a diff school of thought. stop this & let everyone mind their own business.

  6. see thats wer ur wrong we ARE muslims

    and look at u going around calling ppl kaffir

    thats haram u no ...

  7. no one said shia are nonmuslim, but when you start saying sunnis are, then i start talking.

  8. What is this big obsession about who's Muslim and who's not?

    Anyone who claims another is not Muslim is not the best definition of Muslim himself! Muslims are to spread peace, not ignorance, intolerance and hatred.

    Shias, Sunnis, Ahmadis, Sufis, Ismaelis and every other subsect are all MUSLIM first!

    Whoever is bored enough to judge who is Muslim and who is not, will have to answer to Allah himself. We are not to judge!

    Salam.

    Add on: Give the thumbs down all you want and if you truly feel worthy enough to judge others, then I pray that Allah will grant you the guidance you truly need to wake up and work on redeeming yourself and helping humanity instead of spreading nonsense.

    Add on again: Modesty and humility in character are of prime importance in Islam. All of us need to remember that WE ARE NOT PERFECT and have NO right to judge another's intentions. Only Allah has that right.

  9. First not all Shia'a are Kuffar, but all Sunnis (except unity idiots) agree that Shia'aizim is Kuffr

    Since we can not look inside their hearts we do just like our prophet did! he followed Allah orders concerning Munafiqin-Kuffar like Ibn Abi Salool and treated them like Muslims as long as the hide their Kuffr inside their dirty chests

    nice block pig

  10. Sina is right

  11. Apparently, non-Muslims are directed away to a different road from makkah;

    http://www.sondrak.com/archive/skpics2/m...

  12. All deviant sects who do shirk and kufer shias khwarjis sufis ahmadis

    all of them do Hajj  then why you said only shias?

    now the shias says ahmadis are kafirs  and they are doing Hajj

    the same goes for shias !

    Nice try but it's stupid try !

    and yes Shias are not Muslims (it doesn' mean they are kuffar !!  it means they are deviasnt sect so some of them make kufer are kuffar who make shirk are mushrikis who make bida'ah are ahlul bida'a   and this is for all not only shias)

    but they are the same with other deviant sects ahmadis khwarjis sufis etc !

    and even the undercover Muslim can go there

    but if i was The governor of Makkah i will let them with an eye on them so they can make hajj but not their kufer and shirk stuff!

    shias when they visit the Madina they spit on the the sahaba

    graves Abu Baker(Ra)  and Omar(Ra)

    and they killed many Muslims in makkah you do know what happened in the Hajj of 1987 !

    when khomeini sent them

    Note not all shia are kuffar

    but all Shias are NOT Muslims !

    so there is who make kufer and who make shirk and bida'ah from them

    so we can't say they are all kufar

    but we can say they are not Muslim ..

    read here

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

  13. I am sure Shias have the exact same opinion of Sunnis going to hajj.

  14. Then it is a good thing you are not someone with position and importance.

  15. Without doubt the 'Aqeedah of the Rawaafidh Shee'ah is Kufr and this is by Ijmaa' of the Ulemaa of Ahlus Sunnah and the Muslimeen.

    However, the Ulemaa do not make Takfeer Mu'ayyin of the Shee'ah 'Awwaam.

    But it's really sad to see in Makkah in front of the Ka'bah people (Rawaafidh) calling upon 'Alee radhiallaahu anhu for forgiveness rather than Allaah.  

  16. i agree with roxxn ... and people did you know it is haram to call someone a kaffir and when you say something like all s**+'a are kaffir you are judging every s**+'a thats a huge sin! and that makes you a good muslim how?

  17. Well, as long as the Scholars think they are Muslims..... they will be save.

    If one day they would decide in union that they are not, they'd be in trouble and the same fate that Ahmadiyya befell would befall on them.

    The Ahamdiyya are the only ones who i know so far who are not allowed to go on hajj to Makkah........like our beloved Prophet (PBUH) once was not allowed to go there.

    It always amazes me that the committee of wise men went to sit on the chair of Allah and decided they were not Muslims. Makes you wonder what they were so afraid of!!

    edit: Thumb me down all you want, the truth hurts i know. Thumbing me down won't help you if you stand before Allah and have to explain to Him what gave you the right to declare others Kafir

    edit 1: Roxxn, you rock sister!

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