If someone I care about is recruited by feminists, is this a fair response?

Question

I bought into Feminism with zeal about 15 years ago. I was young. I actually believed that we could all be happy and the same. So I would say I can relate to you. Age and wisdom have exposed to me feminism for exactly what it is however. It's not women's rights, that's called women's rights. In women's studies they will blur those lines until you believe women's suffrage and the fight for women's rights were the result of feminism. Here's the real world outside of college. Many women are completely overwhelmed because they need to work and still want to do all the things motherly instinct tells them to do. Men are not able to provide, we're on a two income per family system. Men are not able to lead their families (which is an instinct). Women sense that something is wrong, can't better it, can't turn to their men to have them better it and wind up divorcing. Children are growing up fatherless. Male leadership favors justice and rules. Despite what anyone argues kids who grow up without this grow up without direction, with a blurry sense of right and wrong, more inclined to have s*x outside of marriage, and young, more inclined to use drugs, without a sense of how to lead for boys, and without an understanding of what a good man is, how to choose him, and how to be a good wife to him for girls. Despite everything you'll be taught, bad wives CAN NOT make good mothers. Healthy children come from households where a mother respects her husbands lead. Period. Children learn by the model method. They learn to obey while watching obedience. They learn to be fair leaders by watching fair leadership. All the arguing in the world, all the skewed statistics in the world can't change this fact. A family with two or more people driving it is going to crash just as spectacularly as a car with two or more working steering wheels. It's certainly wise, if I'm driving a car to take advice from passengers, but I have to be the one to drive it. I believe Feminists to by and large to be very well intentioned people, caught up in a highly toxic movement. The egalitarian agenda has dismantled the family unit. I bought into, I played a role. We have to pick ourselves up though. Having different roles does not make men and women any less equal in value. Families are indeed made up of complimentary parts that fit together. We've been experimenting with cutting all the pieces of the puzzle into identical pieces and trying to fit them together. They fall apart, this simply has not been working. For the sake of our children we need to give them families that are whole. These kids need a Father who is a Father and strong Husband, a Mother who is a Mother and a loyal Wife and they need to see this and follow it and to be raised up right into good husbands and wives. Our society will flourish when our families are strong. The chaos and disruption in our society is fall out from chaotic, disrupted homes.

Answer 1

I think it is one of the better summaries of the problems of feminism I have seen.  The only thing I would be concerned about is pushing this person away.  I don't think it sounds very hostile but in any discussions on this topic I have with my feminist friends, it  quickly escalates into an argument.  I find that when you come at people who have devoted their life to a cause that you believe is wrong, they will defend that cause to the death, no matter what you say.

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I agree with Cloudcity in that respect needs to go both ways.

Answer 2

I believe that you have blamed the current status of the family on Feminism.

The current status of the family has to do with the culture at large and the values that have perpetuated through time. Society/Culture is itself like an ant colony - one organism, that moves and flows to what suits it at the time. Feminism cannot be blamed for what you see as a poor family status in the country.

I would pose these questions to you, and I most respectfully ask you to ponder them throughout your day:

If a mother or father dies in a family is that child destined to be tainted, not socialized correctly and have a completely screwed up view of the world?

I am unsure about your views on homosexuality, but what about same s*x families that are raising children? Because there is an absence of either a man or a woman do these children also "suffer"?

My family operates on a complete egalitarian example, and I have turned out stunning and educated. How would you explain my success in my life, when I was raised in a seriously egalitarian family?

And lastly:

What does it hurt to allow this person close to you to follow their heart, or "do the college thing", at their own pace... just as you did?

Answer 3

I don't know what you mean by "recruited by feminists".  There is no feminist cult of which I am aware.  There are the feminist beliefs that men and women are equal, that women  deserve equal pay for equal work, and if the wife is working to help support the family, the husband should also be doing his part in taking care of the home and the children.

I can't tell what you are trying to convince her of.  You admitted that you can't support the family completely on your own and you both have to work to do this.  Are you expecting her to do all the work of taking care of the home and children as well?  If that is the case, then that means you expect her to do half of "your" work plus all of "hers".

Or, are you trying to be the boss and have her do what you tell her?

Neither of these is fair or equitable, so if that's what you are after, you should have been born 100 years earlier.  The world isn't that way anymore.

Answer 4

This sounds like a response from a sad and very tired person.

No one should be expected to "be led" by an individual simply because he is male.



Those you choose to follow should be selected based on integrity, intelligence, kindness, and wisdom- NOT gender. Saying that one needs a man in the household is quite shallow.

I feel as though you just spit in the face of all single mothers throughout history.

Answer 5

You said "Healthy children come from households where a mother respects her husbands lead. Period."

Why do you single out that a mother must respect her husband. Respect should be mutual between parents for mentally healthy children.