If the goverment make it law to have a 50/50 biofuel mix in petrol and diesiel tanks will the price go down??

Question

Not interested in the debate about if biofuels are good for the enviroment for the minute, if biofuels cost less to produce and the goverment makes it law that the petrol companies must have a 50/50 mix in the tanks then the price of fuel should go down, any opinions would be welcome

Answer 1

No, price will go up for both fuel and food. There is no way we can provide enough ethanol to run 50/50 so on a supply vs demand basis, it would rise until we cut back sharply on consumption .

Answer 2

why not make it yourself for free?

I currently run Bio Fuel (straight vegetable) in a 1999 Dodge 3500 truck. But all Cummins engines were modified from the factory to run on BioD since around 1992 without any modification.

Most vehicles are already equipped to run on Alternative Energy. In fact you’re probably even driving one right now and didn’t even know it. Go to www agua-luna com for a list of this vehicles

Ethanol doesn’t go bad like petroleum it’s just Alcohol. It’s what preserves your wine and gets better as the years go by.

Ethanol is a much cleaner fuel than petrol (gasoline):



It is a renewable fuel made from plants

It is not a fossil-fuel: manufacturing it and burning it does not increase the greenhouse effect

It provides high octane at low cost as an alternative to harmful fuel additives

Ethanol blends can be used in all petrol engines without modifications

Ethanol is biodegradable without harmful effects on the environment

It significantly reduces harmful exhaust emissions

Ethanol's high oxygen content reduces carbon monoxide levels more than any other oxygenate: by 25-30%, according to the US EPA

Ethanol blends dramatically reduce emissions of hydrocarbons, a major contributor to the depletion of the ozone layer

High-level ethanol blends reduce nitrogen oxide emissions by up to 20%

Ethanol can reduce net carbon dioxide emissions by up to 100% on a full life-cycle basis

High-level ethanol blends can reduce emissions of Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) by 30% or more (VOCs are major sources of ground-level ozone formation)

As an octane enhancer, ethanol can cut emissions of cancer-causing benzene and butadiene by more than 50%



Sulphur dioxide and Particulate Matter (PM) emissions are significantly decreased with ethanol.

Lastly and my favorite.. It can be made at home.

It will cost about $1.10 to $1.20/gal to make the alcohol from various feed-stocks like corn, barley, potatoes, or Jerusalem artichokes. You will also have by-products which you can sell or use as animal feed, reducing the total cost down to about $.95/gal.

Biofuel is recognized by both the US Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy as an alternative fuel, and qualifies for mandated programs under the Clean Air Act Amendments and the Environmental Protection Act of 1992 (EPAct).

USDA Clears Air with Biofuel: Buses and other diesel-burning vehicles run cleaner if they mix biofuel with regular diesel fuel, said the US Department of Agriculture at a biofuel fuel seminar at a USDA research center.

Conversely most major automotive manufacturers (Chrysler, Ford, and General Motors, etc) recommend the use of bio fuels, and nearly every car manufacturer in the world approves ethanol blends in their warranty coverage.

In fact your probably even driving an ethanol car and didn't even know it.

The trick is finding fuel.

I've been producing biofuel for about 3 years now, it's not extremely difficult. Basically you need general household ingredients, a processor (or still for ethanol) and some used oil. Blend it, let separate, screen and use. I complied a guide a while back to help walk you threw the process step by step, just email me or check out..

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Answer 3

Well generally speaking yes but this is the government were talking about so more likely........NO.

all this tax from it will not be given up that easy or something else will have to be more heavily taxed..

also how do we know that there not doing it now??? yet without telling us!

what ever way were the losers

Answer 4

Environmental questions aside, The agricultural demand for Bio-fuel feedstocks has caused the prices of corn and sugar to skyrocket. Without cellulostic ethanol the demand would outstrip supply, and prices would soar. This would effect global prices and it would find a stasis, but not a cheap one. The cost would then effect food supplies and the higher price of food would proportionally "tax" the poorest people just to pay for our fuel. I would agree to a 50/50 rule or even a 85% rule if we were making this stuff from cellulose, like agricultural wastes or switch grass, but until then I'll pay for the gas in my Prius and the Hummer owning idiot will have to pay for the gas in his. In the mean time, All of these folks who are using waste oils, more power to them! Good luck!

Answer 5

No.  It would go up so dramatically that only and elite few would consider paying for it.

Think about it.  The amount of biofuel available is a TINY fraction of the petrol variety.  If 50/50 were mandated the gas stations would run out fifteen minutes after they opened in the moring.

We use ten million barrels of oil per day.  Where are we going to get five million barrels of biofuel to mix with five million barrels of petrol so we can satisfy the ten million per day demand???

Answer 6

Yes! Prices will plummet - I'm really looking forward to that glorious day. (Ha!Ha!)

Answer 7

Hello,

(ANS) You MUST BE JOKING!! it will be the normal 86% tax on every litre.

**NOTE: Its NOT been scientifically proven that BioFuels ARE good for the environment, I'm afraid the jury is still out on that one.

**There is the possibility that BioFuels are NOT carbon neutral after all?

Ivan

Answer 8

To produce that much biofuel, the demand would vastly outstrip supply, therefore costs would go through the roof.

Answer 9

The Government in the UK will not insist on 50% Biofuel, because as others have said it is unachievable. Also, it is unlikely that the cost at the pump will diminish, because fuel companies will want to maintain high profit. The advantage of the vast majority of biofuels is that they can use re-cycled waste products, and so domestic fuel users can make their own fuel relatively cheaply and easily.

Will you save money on fuel at the pump? No. Can you save money on fuel at home? Yes.

Answer 10

Every ear of corn or stalk of sugar cane used for fuel is one less that people can consume. If everything in the US ran on biofuels, nearly every square inch of the country would have to be farmed to produce fuel. Meaning no food, so not a lot of point in having fuel really, since we'll all be dead.

Biofuel makes sense in very few situations, Brazil uses sugar cane which is far more efficient than corn but that still requires farmland be used for something besides producing food.

Ethanol in the US is heavily subsidized yet it's still costly and as someone else said, we've already seen poor Mexican families unable to afford corn tortillas and other food shortages as a result. Corn ethanol requires more energy than you get from the fuel making it a bad idea.

Answer 11

Yes if the supply of the biofuels (e.g. ethanol, etc) to be mixed is abundant.

If there is a low supply and a high demand then it will still be expensive. As in the law of supply and demand

Answer 12

Not only will it not come down, the prices of products that they would have produced on that land will go up, ie. Bread, flour, cooking oil etc.

Answer 13

it's only 2.5% and no,it won't come down

Answer 14

No, it will go up.  If biofuels were more economical, then there would be no need for a government mandate, they would have replaced petroleum fuels on their own.

Answer 15

what with this government? get real.

Answer 16

What do you think?

Answer 17

If the govt gets involved, nothing will get cheaper!!  Remember, these are the guys that gave us taxes

Answer 18

only if you can get the cost down!