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If the natural father sign's the registry within his state but the adoption agency takes the mother?

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The adoption agency takes the mother out of state to have the child and hids this fact from the natural father. What should happen to the child?

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  1. Alot of times when this happens it is the mothers choise to leave she doesn't want to deal with the father. She doesn't want to give him a chance to be a dad. Selfish yes.  If his name is on the birth certificate then in most states he has to give his permission for the adoption. The agency can't make the mother go out of state. You have to admit alot of men don't want the responsibility at first. Then later on when they actually take the time to think about it reconsider and alot of times by then it is to late. I'm not sure how I fell about what should happen to the child. Is it fair to rip them away from the family their with? Alot of times preg parents act without truly thinking about the long term effects of their actions. Not that the system is always right, cause it isn't but sometimes people jump to conclusions without really knowing all the facts that were involved. Easier to put blame then to face reality. Alot of mothers also lie and say they don't know who the father is. This is why it should be made perfectly clear to the bio parents that this a perminate thing and that they should be sure it is what they really want to do. Because changing their minds later only cause more problems for everyone involved especially the child.


  2. The type of circumvention has been in the news lately.  The fathers end up losing their child because they don't know where the mother is, and they don't even know that the child has been born at this point.  There are fathers now who are fighting to get their children because of this type of deceitful circumvention.

    This is so sad, and there are people who blame the father for his loss.  But, when the mother suddenly disappears to have the child, it is not possible for the father to be there.  His rights get lost because he didn't sign the putative father's registry in the state to where the mother was taken.  How could he possibly have known he would have to do this since he wouldn't expect the birth to occur in another state.  He can do all the right things and still lose his child due to this deceit.

  3. Is his name on the birth certificate?  If so, then he needs to sign away his rights.  I don't know if it matters what state he signs them away in.

  4. This is a classic example of what agencies do to ensure relinquishment for their waiting, paying customers

    It is also an example of why adoption needs to be FEDERALLY regulated

    What should happen to the child?  he/she should be returned to his/her father, of course! (like that's ever going to happen - father's rights are trodden all over and over and over. . . . )

    Dear LC, a father who signs the putative father registry is attempting to protect his rights to be a father - why on earth would you presume he should sign his rights away?  that is the exact opposite of signing the father registry

  5. I absolutely agree with Heather that adoption should fall under FEDERAL regulations, especially regarding fathers' rights.  

    Sadly, fathers' rights vary greatly from one state to another, and in some cases, the father has almost NO rights to parent his own child. Some states do not allow the father's name to be on the birth certificate if he is not married to the mother.  This is an outrages breach of a father's constitutional rights, his NATURAL rights, and more than that, the CHILD'S rights to remain with his/her biological family.  

    Without knowing what efforts, if any, the father took to establish his paternity and a desire to parent his child, it's difficult say what should happen in this case.  If he didn't make any effort until several months later, the child should remain with the adoptive parents.

    HOWEVER, if a judge ordered the child to be returned to the parent(s), then the adopters absolutely should abide by the LAW.  Otherwise, they are violating the law & using a dispute between state legal systems for their own personal desires, rather than considering the child's best interests.

    It's infuriating to hear adoptive parents hypocritically using the argument that they've had the child for a number of weeks to DELAY what they should do and knew going in might happen.  Some birth parents do change their minds.  HELLO...they're relinquishing a HUMAN BEING.  That's a tremendous decision!!  

    Most of all, I'm terribly sad for this child who has already experienced the loss of it's mother, and now, with it's 'caretakers' refusing to return him/her to the natural father, his/her potential for emotional harm greatly increases with each passing day.

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