If we didn't know better, would atheists be the ones promoting the sun revolves around the earth?

Question

using reason and rationale...the sun comes up on one side of the earth...and goes down on the other side...keep in mind that we are pretending we don't know its false...but using reason and rationale to determine if the sun revolves around us or we the sun...the idea of the sun revolving around the earth came from a Greek man and was considered to be true for about 4000 years until a Christian countered it...

Answer 1

How would that change that it can be observed that the earth revolves around the sun?

Now, to the really important observation, do you still say "sunrise" and "sunset" and that "the sun will come up tomorrow" and other similar sayings?

So what does it matter whether the earth revolves around the sun or the sun revolves around the earth?   Because I guarantee you from your perspective in your day to day life, the sun rises and sets in relation to the earth and no in relation to the earth's rotation.

Answer 2

Anyone would promote that if threatened with death and excommunication from his or her church as Copernicus was.

Fortunately truth wins out in the end.  Truth trumps religious beliefs every time.

Answer 3

Wow, you surely contain a great deal of willful ignorance in your frantic attempts to construct false straw women about atheism.

Well, atheism deals with facts and evidence, so since there isn't any of either to suggest that the Sun goes around the Earth, its highly unlikely that any atheist would believe such a factless and untrue thing.

As has been pointed out, the church fought the idea of heliocentrism all the way, so a claim that XTianity welcomed new science is historically quite false.

Further, you are demanding that atheists prove a *negative* about ourselves. Logical Fallacy on your part, so your grade remains: F-

Answer 4

Oh, great, more historical revisionism.  The church fought heliocentrism all the way.  Now that it's been proven beyond a doubt, the churches are backpedaling furiously and trying to claim that it was Christians who promoted the theory and scientists who opposed it.

Read a real history book, not the self-serving propaganda that the church puts out.

EDIT:  Atheists wouldn't say that the sun goes around the earth because atheists value truth and science.  Unlike theists they're not trying to make reality conform to an ancient holy book.

Answer 5

The Christian used science to work it out not the Bible.

Atheists use science to work stuff out not Atheism.

Fail train woo woo

Answer 6

"You want to know why we eventually abandoned the geocentric model? Because none of them worked! They were all needlessly complicated, and didn't make any useful predictions."

That's why they are still used. Since all motion is relative, from a mathematical perspective it is merely a matter of preference whether you regard the sun as being in orbit around the earth, or the earth as rotating on its axis.

Answer 7

Yes a christian who dared to think outside of the box........Where do you come up with this stuff?

Answer 8

The sun revolving around the earth and vice versa has nothing to do with atheism. Atheism the opposite of theism, not a way of scientific thinking.

I'm surprised someone gets credit for coming up with the idea that the sun revolved around the earth. You'd think that people would just look up at the sky and assume it does. Kind of like giving someone credit for the idea that chickens lay eggs.

Greeks did think of the idea that the earth revolves around the sun though (Aristarchus), it just wasn't a general consensus until later.

And if I lived 4,000 years ago, before all the evidence, of course I would have believed that the sun revolves around the earth. I'm sure we all would have.  

Answer 9

Now, you've got both the sun and earth spinning round my head...real fast!

Answer 10

Well 'promoting' suggests that in your hypothetical situation the alternate view has already been discovered.  In which case I (and of course I can't speak for all atheists) would be inclined to examine this new viewpoint and, upon discovering that it was valid (which is the conclusion a reasonable person would come to) I would adopt it.

So in answer to your question, no.  I might have believed that the sun revolved around the Earth if I hadn't been taught otherwise, and indeed I probably did as a young child.  But I wouldn't promote that view to someone who could make a reasonable argument against it.

Answer 11

No.

It does not explain the facts seen.

Galileo worked this out scientifically 400 years ago.  And the Christians branded him a heretic.

Meanwhile here is what the great Martin Luther had to say:

There is talk of a new astrologer who wants to prove that the earth moves and goes around instead of the sky, the sun, the moon, just as if somebody were moving in a carriage or ship might hold that he was sitting still and at rest while the earth and the trees walked and moved. But that is how things are nowadays: when a man wishes to be clever he must . . . invent something special, and the way he does it must needs be the best! The fool wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside-down. However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the earth [Joshua 10:10–15].

Answer 12

Heh

distortion....

Christians actually made the man who discovered it recant on threat of death.

EVERYBODY was a Christian back then, because claiming that God wasn't real, would end up costing you your head.

Answer 13

Galileo used science, not religion to prove heliocentrism.

He just happened to be Christian.  

ETA:  Atheists are not the ones who deny proven scientific facts.  Why in the world would we not accept heliocentrism if there was scientific evidence to back it up?

Answer 14

That's a good one. The same with the flat earth. They also do not believe in God because there is no evidence. This would be a really bad for science. If we did not look and try to find things we have no evidence for we would not get anywhere.

At one time we did not have evidence for the earth revolving around the sun. Must not happen because there is no evidence.

At one time we did not have evidence for atoms, must not exist we didn't have evidence.

People of faith have faith to look for things, atheists have no faith so they must not be there.  

Answer 15

you know darwin was a christian  

Answer 16

Wow, do you even have a brain in your head?

You want to know why we eventually abandoned the geocentric model? Because none of them worked! They were all needlessly complicated, and didn't make any useful predictions. We instead moved to the heliocentric model, which was not only computationally simple, it made verifiable predictions. Therefore, scientists of the time knew it was correct.

The fact that Galileo was a Christian is irrelevant; the church actually convicted Galileo of heresy and imprisoned him until he grudgingly recanted on his heliocentric theory. Maybe you should look up the history of it before you decide to make daft statements like you just did.