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If you believe God is nature, and we are bound by the laws of nature, are we not bound by God?

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If you believe God is nature, and we are bound by the laws of nature, are we not bound by God?

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  1. I don't believe 'god' is nature. That would be a kind of silly anthropomorphism.


  2. All signs point to yes

  3. Bound and gagged while he wears leather chaps and holds a silk whip

  4. Nature is transitory.God is eternal. Therefore, God is not nature.

    But we can use Nature to get to God.

  5. Yes but you would find that god in a science book not in a bible.

  6. Yes that would make sense if we were bound by the laws of nature, but that depends of what you define those as.

    Mostly yes, we are a part of nature, even when we go against it.

  7. Reality is you can choose any religion or none, worship any god or none, and there will no supernatural advantage whatsoever either way.

    If a god exists, his presence is obviously not visible in the laws of nature.

  8. I guess so. Although... what about splitting atoms, that doesn't happen in nature, does it?

  9. The concept of god, is a human invention, nature and the laws of nature apply to every human, animal and micron-ism

    in the world and beyond.

  10. "Religion is the realization of Spirit as Spirit; not Spirit as matter.

    Religion is a growth. Each one must experience it for oneself. The Christians believe that Jesus Christ died to save us all. With Christians it is belief in a doctrine and this belief constitutes their salvation. In Vedanta, doctrine has nothing whatever to do with salvation. Each one may believe in whatever doctrine he or she likes, or in no doctrine at all.

    What difference does it make to you whether Jesus Christ lived at a certain time or not? What has it to do with you that Moses saw God in the burning bush? The fact that Moses saw God in the burning bush does not constitute your seeing Him, does it? If it does, then the fact that Moses ate is enough for you; you ought to stop eating. One is just as sensible as the other. Records of great spiritual luminaries of the past do us no good whatever except that they urge us onward to do the same, to experience religion ourselves. Whatever Christ or Moses or anybody else did does not help us in the least, except to urge us on.

    Every one has a special nature peculiar to oneself, which they must follow and through which they will find their way to freedom. Your teacher should be able to tell you what your particular path in nature is and to put you in it. The teacher should know by your face where you belong and should be able to indicate it to you. You should never try to follow another's path, for that is their way, not yours. When your own path is found, you have nothing more to do than fold your arms and the tide will carry you to freedom. Therefore when you find your path, never swerve from it. Your way is the best for you, but that is no proof that it is the best for others as well.

    The truly spiritual see Spirit as Spirit, not as matter. It is Spirit that makes nature move. Spirit is the reality in nature. Action is in nature, not in the Spirit. Spirit is always the same, changeless, eternal. Spirit and matter are in reality the same; but Spirit, as such, never becomes matter; and matter, as such, never becomes Spirit.

    The Spirit never acts. Why should it? It merely is, and that is sufficient. It is pure existence absolute and has no need for action.

    You-as Spirit-are not bound by law. Law belongs to nature. The mind is in nature and is bound by law. All nature is bound by law, the law of its own action, and this law can never be broken. If you could break a law of nature, all nature would come to an end in an instant. There would be no more nature. Those who attain freedom break the law of nature, and for them nature fades away and has no more power over them. All of us will one day break the law for all time, and that will end our trouble with nature.

    Relatively speaking, Governments, societies, etc. are evils. All societies are based on bad generalization. The moment you form yourselves into an organization, you begin to hate everybody outside of that organization. When you join an organization, you are putting bounds upon yourself, you are limiting your own freedom. The greatest goodness is the highest freedom. Our aim should be to allow the individual to move towards this freedom. More of goodness, less of artificial laws. Such laws are not laws at all. If it were a law, it could not be broken. The fact that these so-called laws are broken, shows clearly that they are not "laws." A law is that which cannot be broken.

    Whenever you suppress a thought, it is simply pressed down out of sight, in a coil like a spring, only to spring out again at a moment's notice, with all the pent-up force resulting from the suppression, and do in a few moments what it would have done in a much longer period.

    Every ounce of pleasure brings its pound of pain. It is the same energy that at one time manifests itself as pleasure, at another time as pain. As soon as one set of sensations stops, another begins. But in some cases, in more advanced persons, one may have two, yea, even a hundred different thoughts entering into active operation at the same time.

    Mind is action of its own nature. Mind-activity means creation. The thought is followed by the word, and the word by the form. All of this creating will have to stop, both mental and physical, before the mind can reflect the Spirit." - Swami Vivekananda.


  11. god is a paritcal that crashed into another partical

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