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If you choose cryonics...where does your spirit go during the time that you're "on ice"??

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  1. Candice Z, THAT IS THE BEST, MOST COMPLETE, MOST THOUGHT OUT ANSWER I HAVE EVER READ, BAR NONE.  I hope you do not mind, I have added you as a contact.

    As for my answer - I do not know where anyone else is going during the freeze but h**l might be that counterbalance to the cold and offer some fun people to be around instead of standing on a cloud with wings a flapping and singing in harmony with all those boring religious entities.


  2. good ?, the bible did'nt acount of future technologies, me thinks you will stay in a purgatory state,

  3. Your body is the sanctuary for your life force till it is no longer able to sustain life. If you lie frozen for a century...that is a waste of life force. I cannot think of a reason, other than selfish as h**l, to be frozen for the time being to wait for a cure for old age or whatever. The reason I think it is selfish is because holding on to life in that manner costs the Earth resources and what in the heck did Rip Van Winkle do? He could not recognize anyone or had any idea of what was going on. In the past 20 years, I have seen so many things I thought was written in stone, become old news and obsolete. There would be your "spirit" spitting on you saying: " l wanna go to the next home. This place smells bad and everyone is a slave to some kind of government plan half the year instead of the 4 months before you got frozen. Now you long for those days when you half way knew what was going on. And look at me stuck here in a cold *** chamber so you can wait for a cure. Well lemme give you the cure...spiritual limbo...There is no place like where I am supposed to be."

    Face it...everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die.(I forgot who wrote that). It does not matter how long one stays here on Earth, sooner or later the elements will separate and become another thing wheather or not we like it. So there is your soul waiting patiently as all the souls she/he knows go to the next home and there you are lying in that stupid freezer while some selfish scientist is laughing..."after all his/her relatives that know him/her are all gone...its all mine mine mine. I have all the papers in order and most of it is in my pocket anyway...what a dolt."

    In my experience of dying and seeing my assured home that I build as I live here....I only have to go around the Sun maybe 75 more times and then I go where I build the place I know will be all that I made it as I lived in this sister/brotherhood of WoMan. My spirit knows when it is time to go and I am not going to prolong it or hasten it. "All good things in all good time'. Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter: Run For The Roses. So there you have it...Your soul waits for a bus to come along that is in the garage being overhauled and may never come at all; Frozen in time to wake up and not know where the h**l is home. And if you are lucky...strange people will call you ancestor whachucallit.

  4. That depends entirely on your religious beliefs. Different religions propose different ideas about what spirits are and how they behave.

  5. i agree with some here that once the body is dead, the soul/spirit moves on. I do not think it comes back and that is why I do not think it is possible to revive a deep frozen person. Too late.

    I think it's a waste of time and effeort, but somebody is making a good living out of cryogenics, if you know what i mean.

  6. If I was 'on ice' - I would be free of the shackles of physical form - I would go wherever  I felt to be!!! My thoughts !!!

  7. Your spirit will be in limbo until they find a way to unlock the cryonics process. Then if that fails it will go to heaven or h**l.

  8. Your Spirit goes to another Living Being."God did not waste a leaf on a tree ".Why waste a soul ? When you return to life you may end up with another soul.

    If the previous soul is vacated /available then  it may be returned to you .

  9. Interesting question...I believe in reincarnation, and can't see any reason why someone would want to wait around for their old body to be revived, when they can go on to being born into a new body.  One departs the body on completion of one's mission, and takes on a new vehicle, and a new mission. I would think though, that someone who would go to that extent to have their body frozen in the hopes that it would be revived one day would have a serious dread of the dying process.  Such a spirit may be so attached to the idea of hanging around to be revived, that he may do just that. It may take a good bit of convincing to get  the  spirit used to the idea that it's ok to move on.  If others on the other side were to convince him that it's ok to move on, and be born in another body, then there is still the matter of who would actually inhabit the old body, if it were successfully revived.  I would think that if a soul is waiting to be born again, and anxious to return to Earth it's possible a different soul may inhabit the body as a "walk in".  There are some people out there right now who believe they are "walk ins".  This is where the original soul that inhabited a body decided to leave for whatever reason, and a different soul moves in before the body can die from lack of an animating spirit.  Sort of like in the movie "Heaven can wait", that would be a depiction of a walk in scenario.  Walk ins supposedly have access to the memories of the spirit that previously inhabited the body, yet their family members note unusual changes in personality....

  10. Legal death or clinical death are dependent on definitions of technology. Before 1950 if a person's heart stopped, they would be regarded as being permanently dead. Today, it routinely occurs that persons whose hearts have stopped (and are therefore "clinically dead") are "restored to life" with a defibrillator or CPR. Does that mean that their soul was in heaven or h**l for several minutes until it was brought back? Is that so different from a cryonics patient being "restored to life" after being cryopreserved for 100 years? What is the difference between 5 minutes and 100 years in the context of eternity or in the mind of God?

    The Catholic Church is opposed to the destruction of cryopreserved human embryos because they are believed to have been given souls at the moment of conception. Human embryos could be stored in liquid nitrogen for 100 years before being placed into the uterus of a surrogate mother. This is not necessarily so different from cryopreserved adults who could be restored to life after 100 years. Or from a child whose heart has stopped while being hypothermic in a frozen pond. Does that mean that their soul was in heaven or h**l for an hour until it was brought back? Is that so different from a cryonics patient being "restored to life" after being cryopreserved for 100 years? What is the difference between one hour and 100 years in the context of eternity or in the mind of God?

    Where in the Bible does it say that you go to heaven or h**l immediately after the heart stops beating? There is talk of a "judgment day" so maybe no one is in heaven or h**l until that day arrives -- perhaps at the time of the Second Coming of Christ. That could be 100 years from now or it could be 100,000 years from now. There is no agreement about what happens to souls between the time of death and the time of Judgment Day. They could remain in a suspended state (like a frozen embryo) awaiting Judgment Day -- unless they are revived with a defibrillator after several minutes or a post-cryonics treatment after several decades.

    What happens to people who happen to be alive on Judgment Day? If they are killed or not killed, and whether or not they had spent 100 years being cryopreserved would make no difference. If there is a scriptural answer to these questions I cannot cite it. The most reasonable answer consistent with Christianity would seem to be something like "Limbo".

  11. No one has been brought back yet from being frozen after they're dead. My guess is that if you're dead, your dead, and it doesn't matter if your body is buried, cremated or frozen. I think your soul would go wherever it would normally go when your body is dead.

    Am I going to get jumped on for believing in a soul that survives bodily death? I'm sort of new to this section, so I'm wondering.

    I believe the soul can travel through various non-physical realms or stick around the physical world, watching people. If a soul believes/feels it deserves to suffer in some h**l-like realm, it will for a time. I think we experience whatever sort of afterlife we want or need to experience.

    Now in theory, what would happen if sometime in the future the frozen body could be reanimated? Would the original soul come back into it? My guess is that it might, but more likely some other spirit would take over this body. Maybe it could be something like a walk-in?

    - P.

  12. Iceland?

  13. Old rock candy mountain

  14. It's just chillin.

  15. i believe we are a result of coordinated chemical reactions and our sense of being or who we are is entirely dependent it.  this takes out any question of souls or afterlife and such.  it is a touching subject because it cannot be proven one way or another.  all we have now is science and belief.  where does your soul go?? it is suspended in an insulated case filled with liquid nitrogen.  too bad for the people frozen now that even though they are frozen their bodies are slowly breaking down and if they are thawed now there is nothing we can do

  16. dead.  the fact of the matter is that we may be able to freeze a human without damaging cellular structure, but there is no way to keep the mind alive forever.  Cryogenics seems to treat the human mind like a hard drive you can just stop using and it will retain data.  Esentially it would just be freezing to death.  

    The best we could ever hope for is that someday cloning humans may be possible, so we could thaw the human out and reclone them, but they would be born as a baby with no risidual memory.  And the last thing we need to do is create babies in a lab when we're already creating far to many the natural way.

  17. where is the spirit of the frozen fish you buy from the supermarket

  18. Seems to me that you are on the other side... you leave your body. Are you in Limbo? I doubt it, you would be in spirit, but with the  notion that you could be "called" back for enlistment in your previous body at any time. They probably choose not to go back... say "what the hay,.. I am here now..." and abandon the body. Of course one person is going to want to come back and when they do perhaps they will give us the full story.... until that day .... this is what I think.

  19. Only Jesus Christ has returned from the dead. Once your brain activity stops your dead. Just dead. your soul must exit the body. soul is enclusive of your spirit. There is no longer a desire to remain in the body. Its understood that the body will now decay despite what preservation measures are taken. Freeze me squeeze me whatever, your choices do not include inhabitating that physical body ever again.

  20. Perhaps you should call a 1-900 number and ask a 'real psychic'.

  21. In cryogenics you are freezing the spirit as well you would sleep in a frozen slumber amongst memories and dreams your brain is not dead just merely slowed down like a snake in winter only to hibernate until a designated time has been reached...

  22. from being dead then put on ice and then revived in the future the time spend may only feel like 30 seconds?

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