If you had kids - would you welcome the cane being brought back in at school?

Question

If you had kids - would you welcome the cane being brought back in at school?

Answer 1

no, back when they had the cane, they hurt kids for spelling a word wrong or forgetting their homework once. Sometimes you just make mistakes, Children shouldn't be punished for something that's human

Answer 2

Yes, at the moment the children have power over the teachers, it should be the other way around. I went to a school that had the cane threat and it was a deterent, I dont think it was used much. Clearly it should only be for gross misconduct.



Respect for teachers.

To everyone thats said, No, if theres to be no deterent in schools maybe we should abolish all deterents in adult life as well, no police, no courts, anyone can do anything!

Answer 3

I never hit my kids.I certainly would not allow anyone else to!

If you have to resort to violence then there's something sadly lacking in your ability as a teacher or human being for that matter and what kind of message does it send out? Best way to sort things out is with violence?That's rather pathetic.

You get best results by teaching kids to have self respect and by respecting them you get respect in return.

Answer 4

No I have children and although I feel teachers should be allowed more freedom than they have at present to discipline the kids, I would never allow anyone to hit my children especially with a cane. When I was at school the cane was just being abolished and our school had plenty of discipline without it. There was still the threat of a clip round the head but it was more than that. If you got sent to the head you were petrified of what she/he would say and what your parents would say. I think that is where the problem lies. My eldest (16) is far more frightened of what trouble she will be in at home than at school and unfortunately there are an awful lot of parents that do not back schools as they should and do not have the structure at home to ensure their kids are not misbehaving.  

Answer 5

Yes, as long as it was administered by female staff for male pupils and male staff for female pupils and always when they are wearing trousers - the kids i mean! There should be a female and a male assistant head who could do this and the earlier they start in primary schools the better! Perhaps they could also cane some of the yobbish parents who allow their children to become monsters! Five years olds excluded for bad behaviour including assault on the staff? No-way! Get them in line or out of the school system. Those parents who object should pay for their children to be educated elsewhere if they are disruptive. Three strikes and you're out!

Answer 6

I got the cane a couple of times in school.

there was nothing OTT about it, just 3 good swats on my up-turned palm

X2.

I have not suffered permanent harm from being punished.

It did teach me right from wrong & if only we could see the return of corporal punishment in schools, maybe.

MAYBE

we wouldn't have so many out-of-control, binge-drinking teenagers intent on self-destruct as they've never known any boundaries, limits Or been taught any self respect.

how can any caring loving parent not understand the importance of

Spare The Rod, Spoil The Child?

It's easier to control a toddler than wait until that child reaches puberty & then wonder what went wrong!

Bad children are products of Lousy parents, the Child Act to protect abused & in-dangered children is much like most rules & regulations we've adopted here in the UK.

It DIDN'T SAVE victoria climbe ( sadly, amongst others ) BUT has been misused by a generation of louts who know their rights outweigh any real punishment they COULD or SHOULD be given.

Answer 7

No problem, but then the parents can bring the baseball bat to the teacher. Fair no?

Answer 8

no but i am one of the dying breed of parents who will actually support the schools discipline procedure

they are even scared to give detentions nowadays

Answer 9

No. I am not against children being given the odd slap, but if my child needed discipline, I would be the one to give it!!!

Answer 10

yes i would, because children take the liberties these days and if we used it in the first place, stabbings and shootings would not occur.

Answer 11

I do have kids, annd I never spared the rod, I live my life by the good book.

Answer 12

yes as kids are out of control you cant even discipline them in your own home now when i was a kid i had respect for teachers and my parents and adults in general but to day theres a you cant do anything to me , ps i have got 2 kids

Answer 13

Children grow up knowing that they are outside the law, (it cannot touch them irrespective of what offences they commit), people can only integrate into society if they have respect for the rules, and this does not occur when they are not held accountable for their actions, and realise that there is a penalty to pay for disrespect for other people and their property, this  start with potty training, otherwise it has to be beaten into them at the other end of their junior years with military service, peoples unruly offspring must be held fully accountable for their actions,otherwise mother's just claim that the odd stabbing or murder is just a phase there going through, and they'll grow out of it, unruly yobs do not have a switch on their necks to change them into responsible citizens when they are eighteen.

The isle of man still retains some quaint customs, which act as a deterrent for this kind of behaviour, i recall years ago a motorcyclist in TT week mugged an old lady coming out of a post office with her pension, the island was turned upside down, and when caught he was rewarded for his misguided exuberance for her pension with 40 strokes of the birch, thrown of the ferry into GB, and apparently he hasn't returned.

Answer 14

No it was ineffective, and i don;t think it gives any kind of message that corporal punishment works.

for all the people say yes, and the ones who say that it didn;t do them any harm, well i think that it does, it shows that its ok to beat a child, and often  they used to for small infringements, as someone pointed out, like spelling, and lack of homework.

Answer 15

I do have kids - and the answer if definitely not!

I was caned once aged 6 - for dropping my desk lid when I was getting my books out.  

Answer 16

No, definetly not...

Answer 17

Yes - if it was as a last resort.  My child is doing well in school but I am fed up with reports coming back of how hard it is to concentrate in class due to the noise and anti-social behaviour of some of the kids.  Is it coincidence that it is the same names all the time?  

If my child got the cane I would probably be cross but with her for being a pain in the neck - not the school for attempting to discipline her but there again, if the cane was as a last resort, I would have known that she was being a nuisance and tried to do something about it rather than threaten a teacher or school because they were having to do my job as a parent (teaching my child discipline) rather than moan at the school.  If she was caned for stupid reasons - wearing trainers, not done homework for the first or second time then I would be having a go at the school.

Answer 18

No, to use corporal punishment, or not is my decision not a strangers who happens to teach my child. The cane was abused in the past, bringing it back won't help. Solving the issues in todays children and teenagers can only start at home with the parenting.

Answer 19

absotapdancinloutly

It never did us any harm, besides if kids are well behaved then it wouldnt get used, I honestly believe that half of todays problems with knife and gum crime is all because teachers have no authority.

I personally thought twice about getting into mschief, for fear of being sent to the headmasters office.

its all about consequences..... today there are no consequences for actions.  

Answer 20

i agree ,it might bring back some respect .look at what is happening ,no person can make any decision without somebody complaining about it,just stop and think about it, you tell me anything that i can do without some nosey get interfering ,and it is to late to change it ,how long has this world got i wonder.............

Answer 21

I do have kids and I think the poor teachers have no control at all, not because they are useless but because their hands are tied. I don't advocate the cane, but I definitely think a clip round the ear occasionally, plus reasonable restraint is sometimes called for. We expect our schools to take care of our kids and jump down their throats when anything goes wrong, but we don't let the schools act like parents when necessary. I know my son could be a so-and-so. He got discipline at home so he should get it at school.

Answer 22

I don't know about the cane, but I'd like to see something. Kids are just not frightened of their teachers anymore. Maybe that's the wrong thing to say. They don't have much respect.  

Answer 23

No one believes me..but I graduated high school in '04 in a small Texas town and they still gave "swats"..and yes I did get two for skipping. Parents had the option of disallowing corporal punishment though..but my mom overlooked it as it came in the stack of papers to be signed at the beginning of the year.

But no I don't think this should be prevalent because it stimulates aggression in my opinion.

Answer 24

I wonder how many of the 'no's' actually understand what discipline is?  Many refer to the use of the cane as 'hitting' - as though the school and pupil were in a playground fight ...... the use of the cane is not 'hitting' it is a consequential result of a wrongdoing (the beginning of learning what the LAWS of a civilised society is, learning the individuals place within society and learning RESPECT FOR THE THE LAW AND OTHERS) - which if implemented properly (and properly supported by all those parents who wail 'you (the teacher/school) must do something with [little Johnny] - he won't listen to me - I can't do a thing with him...' then the actual use of the cane would be such a rarity .... and my 13 year old nephew would not now be in hospital suffering brain damage, paralysis of his left side, his intellectual and academic future so damaged that he will never now reach his full potential becase he got his head and body kicked in so badly, that boot prints were actually imprinted into his skull and flesh - all because he went to a different school to those bullies who were all their 14 years of life spared any proper discipline...... There is an old fashioned saying that goes: spare the rod and spoil the child ....

Answer 25

Yes!!!! Some kids these days have little or no respect or discipline, maybe if the PC brigade had kept their noses out we wouldn't have the frightening problems with the kids that we have today!!!!  EDIT>>>>>>>> When i was young, the worst we did was knock on doors and run away and we had respect, you knew right from wrong!!!!. There is a smallish wooded area near my work, (i work nights) there are kids as young as 8-9 absolutely p*ssed most nights, they start fires in there, when the fire brigade turn up they get abuse and stuff thrown at them,we need to go outside at times and we find them intimidating even at that age,, there are usually about 15 of them upwards to 30, they are often there til 2am, fighting each other, damaging trees, throwing stones and causing damage to nearby houses and where i work,setting fire to the skip is a favourite pastime, of course when we ring the police, they vanish as soon as they see the squad car, to come back another day, im almost on first name terms with the police, oh and where im talking about isn't a city, its a small quiet??? town!!! Cane???? oh yes!!!!

Answer 26

Yes. But it wouldn't be a "cane", just a simple wooden paddle applied to the seat of learning.

For those who argue with me, I guess your best defense is the current "wonderful" public school system we have, right? hehehe

Answer 27

Good question - all these no answers your getting - no wonder this country is fooked up.

Parents are always to pissed up to know what the kids are up to.

No disciplne reflects why the UK is the way it is.

Answer 28

Dont believe in a cane,but when i entered elementary school in the early 70's,there was a thing called the paddle,and it was used,and it kepy children in line,kept them disciplined,and you didnt have school shootings then,nor students raping teachers and the sort! I believe very firmly in corporal punishment,but as one person said,there should be two teachers to monitor the one teacher that is giving the paddling.There should be cameras in the classrooms to SHOW these idiot undisciplined parents what nonsense their anushole children and teens are committing.The parents should be punished as well,or have their children removed from their house for no discipline!

Answer 29

No. This was still an acceptable form of punishment when I was at school and it did nothing to change our behaviour, we simply went to greater lengths to avoid getting caught!

You don't teach a child to respect you by brute force, that is fear.

You don't teach a child to find non-violent solutions by beating them, that is hypocrisy.

Answer 30

Yes. It would be like the good old days when the standards are a few years ahead of current ones.

Answer 31

If that happened I would withdraw my child from education and tutor them at home. There should be no need to physically chastise a child - if you 'need' to resort to violence against a child, something has gone wrong somewhere.