If you learn Brazilian Jujitsu and judo aren't you just learning judo?

Question

The leg locks are really the only difference right.

I ask because I have been learning Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu at a Judo school and I have not even been taught leg locks. I've seen them but never gone over them. Now I'm gaining interest in judo and it's applications to the street and Mixed martial Arts. If I were to start putting more focus on Judo wouldn't all my bjj skills really just be judo

Answer 1

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Answer 2

bjj comes directly from kodokan judo. so in a sense you're absolutely right.

the difference is one of emphasis. bjj excels on the ground, where judo is mediocre. judo excels in throws and takedowns. they compliment each other well.

however i must stress that while it comes from judo...it has evolved into a whole other monster.

Answer 3

Yes one is derived from the other, that is very much true. In fact it was a Japanes master that taught the first Gracie and after only 8 months of teaching he had to return to Japan so he couldnt finish. After that the Gracies began teaching themselves and in fact the Brazilian Jui-Jitsu we know now would have NEVER come into place. It was one of the yonger, much SMALLER, brothers that turned it into the highly technical submitting machine that it is. He was getting tossed around and over powered by his other brothers so he had to adapt what he know to suit him and he did, instead of worrying about power take downs and strikes he concentrated on the technical part of it, how to attack the bodies weakest parts.

Anyway, there are HUGE differences between the 2 arts. Judo was a Samurai art, designed to disarm other Samurai's that had swords or other weapons and to harm them even while they still had on that very tough armor so the hits and throws are extremely powerful and take a bit a strength. Yes, they work off of leverage but mostly off of power to inflict the most damage. Leverage was used as a helping step to gain power into a throw but not as the MAIN component. In BJJ leverage is the primary weapon in almost EVERYTHING taught.

Answer 4

Brazilian Jujitsu and Judo?

very common..?

you could easily transfer to judo just like that

you wouldn't be losing much knowledge if you cant really define the difference

personally ive never heard of Brazilian Jujitsu

but Jujitsu itself is AMAZING and i wish i knew some

because once you get your opponent on the ground in judo and you know Jujitsu..

you will DOMINATE

i've seen it in action, its pretty sick =)

but Judo can take you far

like to the Olimpics if your heart is in it

good luck

=)

Answer 5

Brazilian Jujitsu is pretty much Judo with more emphasis on the ne waza. In a way it would be Judo since that is Brazilian Jujitsu's parent art. Judo is a very good martial art. The Japanese police use Judo and it has great effectiveness on the streets while Brazilian Jujitsu is becoming more of a sport than a martial art.

Answer 6

True, BJJ came from Judo, but until you actually do the two, you won't truly understand how different they really are, even in newaza/groundwork.

BJJ is much more sophisticated in groundwork in that it has developed, refined and extended the use of transitions to finesse the whole process of slipping in and out of postions and attacks.

Judo, on the otherhand, is more forceful in their grappling approach in which pinning would be more important. Further, Judo has roughly 67 devastating throws and takedowns from many standing positions, while BJJ concentrates only on a handful, some of which are not that great.

In all, you should do both. As kempo already stated, they compliment each other well, especially if you want to be "street effective".

EDIT FOR THE ASKER:

You are correct. Some Judo schools do focus on newaza more with a 50/50 approach, and if you can find a school that does, your ground skills will be something to admire, but these are rare. Due to the Olympics, most schools teach according to Olympic sporting rules.

Again as stated, Judo is a great art and their groundwork will give any BJJ a hard time, but BJJ is just a little more sophisticated on the ground (generally speaking).