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If you think international adoptive parents are "buying" their children, then what are foster adoptive...?

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  1. What do you mean, buying kids?

    Plopping down 50 grand and getting a kid in return is NOT buying a kid!!


  2. I have three biological children.  With each of them, I have had to pay expenses such as prenatal care, delivery fees, and the like prior to and upon their arrival.  Thankfully, we had insurance.  My youngest, born in September, racked up a bill of nearly $30,000.

    With adoption, their are also fees associated with the arrival of the child-paper work, court proceedings, and the like.  There is even more of that with international adoption, as you have two countries rules to follow AND immigration rules.  Unfortunately, there is no insurance to help pay the costs of adoption but I liken the expenses to the same thing I paid for the arrival of my biological children.

    Adopting internationally is something we intend to do.  Recently we also contemplated adopting from foster care.  Thankfully, the expense is not as great in that system because it is funded by tax dollars (such as Medicaid is for people that can not afford insurance/medical care to go with my analogy).  It is not kidnapping/abducing or robbery/stealing.  It is giving a child a home.

    No matter HOW a child obtains a home-biologically, through adoption (whether it be through foster care, domestic or international) a family is a beautiful thing and there are going to be expenses involved.

  3. I have to wonder where you are getting all of this. Fostering children happens when the bio parent(s) are not able to take proper care of their child(ren) for one reason or another. How would that be steling or kidnapping? Considering fostering is a federal/state sanctioned program.

  4. I think that it would be a good idea to do more research about the atrocities happening in IA adoption and how paying 20-70,000 for a healthy baby or toddler is driving up rapes, murders, kidnappings and coercion against girls as young as 12.   Go outside of the mainstream media, the adoption agency's making a profit and the adoptive parents contributing to it.  I think you'll find your answer and get what human rights organizations are trying to get into the head of these criminals buying babies.

    In cases of domestic foster care there are many cases of AP's trying to get around legalities or using them to keep another woman's child. They are holding a child hostage and our gov't shouldn't be permitting it.

    Adoption today is unethical and is driven by the people looking out for their best interests and needs. Its not about helping out a child in need. There are many people working with foster care that do care and way too many in IA that don't.

  5. Some people say that the social welfare system in the USA has social workers that take children away from good homes for bad reasons.  The parents who are fighting for their children back would agree with you.  So, yes, I've heard of those words to describe foster parents and social workers.

    However, it's not the norm and I'm sure all foster parents research and get involved so they know all the circumstances surrounding their foster children.  I'm sure they've talked to all parties involved to make sure they're doing the ethical thing.

  6. No, I don't think adoptive parents are buying children.  No I don't think foster parents are stealing children.

  7. rent to own??

  8. so you would rather have orphanages back in the US?? If not, then fostering is the only valid solution....as it takes at risk children and places them in family situations, instead of group homes or orphanages. Most of these children are returned home....as that is the goal of fostering. If a parent cannot make the necessary changes in their lives to promote a healthy, stable, peaceful environment, only then does the child become available for adoption.....the minimum wait for a foster child to become available for adoption is 15 months....to make positively sure that the parents have every opportunity to ask for and receive necessary help.

  9. I am trying to understand you....So are you a bio-parent that had your children removed from your home?

    Let me tell you something:

    FACT:  MOST KIDS IN FOSTER CARE COME FROM ABUSIVE OR NEGLECTFUL BACKGROUNDS.  The bio-parents screwed up....

    If you would like to deny this....trust me.   I can only think of ONE kid over 11 years of being in care that I knew that did not have bio-parents that were abusive or neglectful.  

    Drugs = neglect

    Drinking = neglect

    Abuse = abuse

    Not having food = neglect

    God, I am sick.

    The system sucks.....True!   But the Bio-parents who make poor decisions that affect the lives of their kids suck worse.

    Blame yourself and take responsibility for losing your kids.  Then maybe you can starting healing and establish a relationship with them, (if you haven't ****** them up too badly)

  10. Kristy, you're so funny!

    So, first and foremost, children are not being taken from their parents and put into foster care to be sold to foreigners, like the children in other countries are.  They're not being sold at all, as a matter of fact.  Foster kids are free.

    There are some states in which the adoption of a foster child results in a "bonus" for the state.  Some states are involved in the trafficking of kids who really should be with their biological parents, because they want this bonus.  Not ok.  Not ok at ALL.  Thankfully, I don't live in one of those states.  The states where this is happening need to make a LOT of changes.  It's supposed to be about the kids and what THEY need, not money.  Any time money is involved, it's toying with ethics.  Most states don't have that money c**p to worry about.

    Third, the desire for children by single, unwed women who just want a baybee at all costs - or infertile people like your buddy - is NOT driving up the removal of kids from their homes into foster care.  That's what happens in international adoptions, not foster care.  Kids are removed from their homes due to abuse and neglect, not because some lady in another country doesn't feel like having a man in her life (or can't get one).

    And last, but certainly not least, IA and foster care adoptions DO have one thing in common.  The adoptive parents are usually not directly involved in the removal of the child from his/her natural parents.  So, abducting and kidnapping are out.  

    Nice try, though.

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