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If you were stolen?

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do you think that your birth mom made it up so she would not feel so guiltyfor putting you up for adption

this is a serious question as i am writing a paper about stolen babies

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  1. If you are infact writing a paper about stolen babies ( which I don't believe you are,because I don't believe you're a movie star, who's home schooling themselves and always w/  your girlfriend typing dude on an adoption forum ) nevertheless....

    Then you should google Abuelas de plaza de mayo and see what they're doing these days. Many columbian adoptees were stolen from their families by the military and adopted into families into the United States. They are now finding out the horrible details to their beginings and holding their adopters liable for their black market adoptions.

    So yes, people can, and are STOLEN and adopted into the United States. A friend of mine who posts as "I WAS STOLEN" is from India and remembers being trafficked and was adopted into the united states. Shes not the only one, as Theresa posted earlier there are many adoptees who once they learn a 2nd language of their adopters can communicate the details and accounts of their "being stolen."

    The NUMBER ONE adoption agency in Guatemala just had its two lawyers arrested for child trafficking. These children certainly were stolen and adopted.

    Google Australias Stolen Generation who also were adopted.

    Children are trafficked and adopted every day. To say that a child can't be stolen and adopted is just wrong.


  2. Nope.  I got my information straight from the agency.  They stole me and they didn't care. The records were sealed and at the time they thought no one would ever find out.  Then my state passed a law that said if my bio mom and I matched on their registry, we would have access to our records.

    Well, last year, we matched and the truth came out and it was ugly.  

    The only positive thing to all of this is that the agency no longer handles adoptions and has not since the early eighties, they moved to actually helping children through programs like The Boys and Girls Club.

    It's a good thing for them because if they were still doing adoptions, I would sue them and so would both of my mothers, adoptive and bio.

    What they did is just horrid.

  3. I wonder what my sister's natural mother would think of this question. She was stolen immediately after birth. Her own mother talked the Dr into forging a death certificate. The Dr then gave the baby to an adoptive family. Her nmom signed a fake death certificate as well as a "burial" certificate that turned out to be relinquishment forms. She was drugged at the time, standard practice in the early 70's, so she was not coherent enough to read the papers and had to rely on her mother to read them to her. Did I mention that her mother was not only in on the abduction but was actually the one who concocted the scheme and set the Dr up to it?

    I somehow doubt that she made it all up to avoid guilt. You didn't have to look into her eyes and see the pain. I have and let me tell you it is not a place I ever want to see again. A part of her died with her baby and it is a slow and treacherous road to bring that dead part back to life.

  4. Actually, this question makes a lot of sense. But then again, I am an adoptee who is reunited with all of her birth family members.

    Many times birth mothers who have relinquished their children back before the 80s ended up being forced into signing paperwork that they did not read or could not read due to drugs given to them...to give up their children.

    They were misled in thinking the paperwork was for something else, sometimes it was even done by the birth parents mom and dad due to embarrassment of their daughter having a child out of wedlock. A friend of mine had this happen. Her parents were so upset over her having a child and not being married it was a disgrace to them and the father was the one who ended up signing the paperwork, no one knew she did not sign it because no one else was around and she was asleep when the social worker came in to give her the paperwork. This was 1969 btw.

    Then yet another instance is back in starting in 1854 -1930s there where orphan trains where people loaded up children that were on the streets and were sent across the U.S. to live with families to help out on farms.

    Here is a link to read about that.

    http://www.42explore2.com/orphan.htm

  5. Haha, your pic looks like the unabomber!

    That question doesn't make much sense because it is not specific enough.  And if a baby is put up for adoption the adoption agency has records from the parents.

  6. you need to tell us more detail...

    Imean,what do u mean u were stolen?

    how so?

    like by ur dad?

    by a stranger?

    etc......

    no,I dont think she would completely make it up

    I think there would definitely be SOME truth to it

    even if she is changing it around a bit

    which she may or may not be doing....

    its hard to even answer u because u didnt tell us much about it.....

    but yanno what.....

    no matter what the situation was,I'm sure she has spent many hours,days,weeks,years crying over u and dreaming of the day she would see u again and life is just too short to hold grudges,etc....so I would just happy that you're reunited with her now,and just forgive her no matter what the case,and move on....

    and even if she was lying,(which i dont think she is) then that would go to prove just how bad and guilty she feels and just how badly she wants you to be a part of her life now....

    she obviously wants you in her life now,no matter what the case....

    and birth mothers dont give their babies up because they dont want them or love them,they give them because they think theyre giving them the chance at a better life and because they DO love them........

    try to remember that....

    and if u were "stolen" then thats really bad....

    but at this point it doesnt even really  matter anymore

    all that should matter is that you two are reunited

    and can now try to have some kind if relationship together from now until one of you dies...which will happen eventually

    so dont lose out on you chance of having a relationship with her because life is too short and when its too late,its too late and you may look back and regret having bad feelings for her and not having a relationship with her because of it....

  7. I wasn't stolen.

    But yes I do think some narcissistic abandoning mothers like to re-write history and play victim by throwing out the "stolen" card.

    There are some actual stolen babies, I wouldn't hazzard a guess as to what percentage of adoptees were truly stolen.

  8. Your question is contradictory.

    If someone was stolen, then they would not have been placed for adoption.

    Why would a birthmother lie about her child being stolen, unless she contributed to the conditions under which you were stolen.  i.e. neglected you, exposed you to dangerous people or environments.

    Some birthmothers do feel guilty for placing a baby for adoption, sometimes due to attitudes like this, suggesting that a baby being stolen is equivalent to adoption.

  9. No. That is ridiculous.

  10. im sure theres a mom out there that made that up to feel guilt free but im sure it would bring more guilt if she was caught.

  11. I don't think she would make that up. But then some mothers just don't care. Good Luck. With your paper.

  12. i am not sure
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