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Im pregnant and wanted your views on circumcision?

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i'm only 12 weeks i don't know the s*x, but did you circumcise? why?

i really dont see any reason why i should....

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  1. My man is not done. I did my son tho. It is a lil bit harder to clean uncircumcised bc of all the extra skin he has to take a lil extra time but that's not necessarily a negative thing.. He also believes his p***s is more sensitive during s*x (not that u care since we r talking about ur son lol). To be honest its kinda funny looking but I like it :) but the brochure I had on it stated the benefit of having it done and not having it done and it mainly was just for appearence and sensitivity, there's no medical reason for it so its a personal choice. Congrats on your baby!

    OMG you women on this site are a trip!!!!!!!  I get 7 thumbs down for giving my experience??  ARE YOU SERIOUS??????  Did I give ANY FALSE INFORMATION???  GET A LIFE THIS SITE IS FOR ADVICE AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCES!!


  2. DO IT!!!

    seriously, ur child will thank u

    i mean it must be really annoying to have extra skin down there

    so why bother? Do it when they're reall little and they WILL thank u later - trust me.

  3. I wish my parents hadn't chosen it for me, when I found out about it I read everything I could, I know tons of information about and have read both pro and anti circumcision websites, I really wanted to believe it was good, but the truth just isn't there, you see and hear all these claims but if you ask for the actual study nobody has them or they are so old and used invalid techniques and would not even be considered for publishing, I wanted to believe it was good but if you look at both sides, circumcising without an immediate medical need makes no sense at all. I later did f******n restoration restoring what was left (they do leave some f******n) but it's not all restorable, but what I was able to get back was great. but this came at a price, I can no longer see circumcision as cosmetic or as if it does not really matter, things that I thought were normal I only realized were problems after I restored and no longer had them, sexual enjoyment is way up. I can't imagine how much better the real thing is.

    people have said in relation to sexual pleasure

    intact=10

    cut=3

    restored=7

    and from my experience I agree with the cut/restored numbers

    let your son have an entire p***s, he only has one life to live, only one chance to feel the full sexual pleasure, if you circumcise him he will never be able to experience it

    http://knol.google.com/k/george-hill/cir...

    www.nocirc.org

  4. do it for your son.  a lifetime of health benefits.  No cancer of the p***s, less stds, less hiv and hpv for cut men and their partners.  No phimosis, balanaits, no smelly f******n and less urinary tract infections.   Much easier to keep clean.

    As for getting the operation later, wrong!!!!!

    much more difficult operation when done to an older male. much more discomfort and healing time.  

        Also most men who get circumcised as adults wish they had it done at birth.

    look at these sites. for info and make up you own mind.

    http://www.circlist.com/

    http://www.gilgalsoc.org/

    http://www.aboutcirc.com/

    http://www.medicirc.org/

    http://www.circumcisioninfo.com/index_ho...

    http://www.circinfo.net/

    http://www.circinfo.com/

    http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/2754...

    http://men.webmd.com/guide/circumcision-...

    here is a group of over 1000 women who have circumcised their children. Join and ask your questions.

    http://www.cafemom.com/group/circmoms

  5. i wouldnt, i am european though so different view

    its not a problem, and as i see it in my view its the same as puting a tatoo on a newborn, you make a descision for them they have no say in and have to live with for the rest of their life

    if they want one they can get one when they are adult enough to make the descision themself, its not a problem keeping clean down there if you have a little common sence, and it cant be undone when done, and it do have a reason in itself -> protecting the sensitive head

    unless religious and do it for that reason, its nonsence, men have lived without dying in desease from it for 1000's of years, and most of the worlds men do just fine being intact, what makes US men so different?

    no its a case of lazy convininence in stead of learning how to be hygenic, i worked on nursing homes, and seriously it is not a problem

    as for HIV, well you have to have s*x with an hiv infected person first to get it in the first place, and everyone these days should know to protect themself, and make sure their partner is clean, there is a risk regardless having intercourse with such a person, and you cant contract it if you dont have intercourse with someone hiv infected...so if you dont sleep around, and you are carefull in your choise of partner then its a non exsisting issue no?

    by removing it the head will need to grow less sensitive skin, so i do not see why someone would thank you any more then say cuting off the outerlips of a woman (it is the removal in effect of an area of pleasure), on a normal head the f******n actualy play an important rolle to protect the had as said both against hairs and other things that may cause annoyanse that can cause soreness or worse infections (so this one goes both ways)

    you have to be carefull sure, and its important to keep clean and dry...but how is this different to girls? and to the rest of your body...should we remove our toes because if we dont clean and dry between them we may get fungus?

  6. Don't do it. There are no real benefits and heaps of risks and losses.

    Circumcision is the amputation of the f******n, not extra skin but an integral part of the p***s; measuring 15 square inches in an adult and accounting for over half the penile skin, lots of specialised nerve endings and the most sensitive parts of the p***s.

    Not one medical organisation in the world recommends routine infant circumcision anymore but the US is the last western nation still doing this to about 50% of its newborn males. They still don't generally use anaesthetic either. It's child abuse, pure and simple.

    The p***s forms as one organ and at birth the f******n is usually fused to the glans like a fingernail to its finger. So there is no cavity for germs and dirt to collect in until it separates naturally later; sometimes not till puberty or later. Only the boy himself should retract it and then he can be taught to skin back and rinse with plain water regularly.

    Misguided attempts to retract too early, often by doctors and nurses, are the main cause of damage to boys’ foreskins and the real main reason for childhood circumcisions.

    To perform a neo-natal circumcision the circumciser has to rip the f******n away from the glans with forceps. Then the f******n is either cut away or clamped until it falls off. Both methods cause the baby extreme pain and his raw glans and wound sting every time he urinates. It's quite common for the raw edges of the cut f******n to fuse to the raw glans during the healing process, forming skin bridges or tags. These complications and other more serious ones are often not found till puberty and do not show up in complication statistics.

    More serious complications, though not common are immediate. Some babies lose their p***s to infection, bleed profusely (often because they are haemophiliac) or even die each year.  

    The claimed benefits of circumcision are a beat up (based on flawed studies) and don't really exist but medical authorities have worked out that the overall complication rate is higher than all the benefits claimed by the pro-cutting advocates. One by one the claims are disproved but the pro-cutting zealots come up with more and keep quoting the old ones despite the evidence against them. For example you have more chance of dying from a circumcision or losing your p***s from infection than from penile cancer. The rate of penile cancer is higher in the largely-circumcised USA than in European countries where less than 1% of the male population is circumcised. Plus circumcised men have been found to have penile cancer, mostly on the scar. (Remember this is a very rare disease in intact or circumcised men).

    A very recent study in New Zealand followed a cohort of boys through life from birth to age 32. About 40% were circumcised. The intact males had a slightly lower rate of sexually transmitted infections than the circumcised but there was no significant difference.

    Using surgery to mutilate the genitals instead of washing in a modern western society makes no sense. Normal intact male genitals are, if anything, easier to wash than female ones and the same substance, smegma collects in the genital folds of both sexes. A few intact males have problems with tight f******n but this is only a tiny proportion of intact males. The condition can now be almost always treated with simple stretching exercises, sometimes in combination with a steroid cream that speeds up the process. However doctors who do not value the preservation of the f******n often still trot out circumcision as a first-option treatment in the US and even some other countries.

    I am circumcised and hate it. I wish I'd been given the chance to choose for myself. Intact men can choose to get cut at any time in their life, though most have no desire to do so. The internet has shown that many men resent being circumcised. It's just not something that most of us talk about a lot, even to our parents.


  7. No I read the information on it, talked to 3 pediatricians about it and other parents and decided that there is no reason to do it medically.  It is really an unnecessary procedure to be done.  Some will say it is cleaner but in all reality a cut p***s is no more cleaner than an uncut p***s.  The pediatricians I have talked to are all against it and most insurance companies are now considering it just cosmetic surgery and refusing to pay for it unless the Dr provides a medical reason for it.  Both of my boys are uncut as is their dad and my step-dad.  None of them have had infections.  

  8. I wouldn't do it if I had a son, it's not necessary. Most men worldwide are circumcised and fine. If f******n problems arise (unlikely) they can be dealt with if they happen. Why remove the f******n before hand? There are complications that can arise from circumcision, and I think it's a cruel welcome into the world. It can be done at any age, with the consent of the person involved, but never undone. Many men are upset that they were circumcised as infants and there is a huge organisation of them undertaking f******n restoration. By contrast, most uncircumcised men are happy to have been left intact, but in the rare cases where they're not, they can choose to be circumcised (with pain relief, unlike a baby). I would advise you to not circumcise.

    Harriet

  9. I have two sons which I chose not to circumsize and I never regret it. There is no logical reason for it. It subjects the child to pain when they do the surgery and then it hurts everytime he pees for at least the first two weeks of his life! What a terrible introduction to the world.  

  10. You're correct, there is no good reason.

    and the person above me obviously doesn't know how to research.  so sad :(

    Lab girl - that information is so wrong.  Please do some research too!!

  11. I'm not circumcised thankfully I have a natural p***s which is natures best? Do people really know why they want want a child circumcised except from a bunch of tales or maybe it's a family tradition?

    We always think that we know better than nature with out limited knowledge, and have the whole world in a load of c**p with that kind of thinking.

    It's about the boys future s*x life and not about somebody's fashion whim...or to make it look like Daddy's.

    Circumcision is on the way out in the US and not coming in. In Canada, it has gone out even more. Europe does not do it, nor does Australia or (England...where it started during the Victorian Era for les noble reason than you might imagine).

    It is the heritage of the Jewish and Arab men, dating back to Abrahams covenant, and because of Abraham, Islam has also picked it up. Abrahams son Isaac lines into the Jewish people, and his son Ishmael lines into the Arab people and Islam. It was brought to Egypt by Joseph, and also by Islam.

    I'm 24, happily married since 22, I have a natural p***s because my Mom is from European back ground and know better about the natural p***s. She could see no true reason for changing and saw it as a cruel and painful form of body mutilation, which it is, and also a lessening of my sexual pleasure as a man....After all, who ever considers that a little boy grow up to be a functional man!! ...Forbid!! Hahaha!

    I never had a problem, and the highest percentage of natural guys don't. If anything with it was to be changed, it would be a loss to us as to the amount of pleasure that I experience as well as the amount of control that I have from being able to feel everything. The f******n has protected the head of my p***s, keeping it at maximum possible sensitive, and a membrane with the nerve receptors at the surface instead of dry multi layered skin covering them over. Circumcised guys will give me a thumbs down and argue my point, but physics alone supports me. They will use cleanliness as an excuse to circumcise, but every one needs to wash including Ladies who also have hidden intricate places... What they are, needs to be best, and I don't blame then for feeling that way!!!

    In being the same type of creature that your son is, I thank you on his behalf if you don't do it, because he isn't able to know the difference or tell you yet. The way he will be born will be perfect, and untampered with by any of mans crazy notions.

    Some cultures circumcise Ladies too by removing their Labia and clitorus and say that it's for reasons of cleanliness in those hidden intricate places. Both types of circumcision make equal nonesense!

    There is a group of people with a perverse notion, bent on reducing the males ability for sexual pleasure, with an adamant determination, before he is able to defend himself.

    Circumcision should really be the choice as a man in the first place, and not something hanged on him as a baby so that he isn't abe to do anything about it.

    Me! :- )

  12. As a purely cosmetic surgery, I believe it should be up to the boy to choose for himself when he is grown up, whether he wants to have it done or not.

    My boys are both intact and, of course, they never had an issue with it. They are the way they are supposed to be and their foreskins are there for a reason.

    If you have a boy, I'm sure he'll be grateful to you when he grows up if you leave him intact.

    Congrats on your news by the way. :)

  13. Hi. I just had a little boy. We did not have it done. No reason to. I am a nurse and have witnessed a few of them. I did not like it and felt it was not important, and there is really no reason. Most of the world is not. My husband is, but when our son askes, we will tell him an age appropriate answer, that is the truth.  

  14. I did choose to circumcise and it did heal in about a week. (although I would never never let them do the same method again on a second child)

    But the reason I chose to circumcise is his dad is circumcised .

    I figured he is going to be different from somebody at school no matter what but if he looked like his dad then that was one less confusion.

    If his dad was not then I wouldnt have done it  like you said your partner has had no problems.


  15. circumcision is only for jews...why would you cut the skin. I do not have a circumcision and satisfied and happy with my sexual life.  

  16. We aren't getting our little one cut. We did discuss it though. In the US it is very common but since the 70s in Australia the procedure has become less and less popular. Research shows that there is very little hygenic advantage to having it cut. However there is a slight advantage. My mum told me that back during the war and stuff guys got real bad infections coz they werent able to wash... My hubby's uncut and he's always 'adjusting' which we both thought might be a disadvantage. But he also said it would get a bit desensitized if it was cut as it doesn't have a cover so to speak. Personally I think that 'because everyone does it' isn't a real good reason. But I dont think there is a real advantage or disadvantage either way

  17. Speaking from a guy's point of view, get it done right after they are born.  There are some health concerns in not having it done.  If a guy doesn't keep it clean, it can easily get infected and from what I understand, it's not easy to clean (my dad wasn't circumcised).  

    Another reason, from growing up and having to take showers in the locker, kids think it looks weird/freakish.  Boys have enough problems with their self-image, having an unusual looking p***s can really affect them negatively in school.

    If you are concerned of the "trauma" done to an infant...don't!  Everyone I know, who had it done shortly after they were born, don't remember it or has ever affected them later in life.  I do know of a couple of guys who had it done when they were older (teens and early 20s)...it hurt them like h*&%!!!  One of the guys was upset with his parents for not having it done when he was an infant and didn't talk to his parents for almost a year after his procedure.

    If you are concerned of sexual sensations, it hasn't affected me or my wife any.  ;) (lol)

    Again, from a males point of view, get it done right after they are born.  There are males who haven't, but I believe the pros of having it done greatly outnumber the cons.

  18. Congratulations on your news!

    Whether to circumcise a son is a question all parents face, but nowadays more and more are opting out of it.



    Here are some facts I suggest you consider:

    - According to a Gov't study, only HALF of baby boys are being circumcised in the US nowadays (compared to 80% a few decades ago) and worldwide only 20% are. In the western US (e.g. California) only 30% of boys are circumcised.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_1...

    - Circumcision is now seen as medically unnecessary. The AAP does not recommend routine circumcision anymore. They say "it is not essential to the child's current wellbeing."

    - The f******n is not just a useless flap of skin. It holds many protective, sensory and sexual functions, and since the invention of the shower, its real easy to keep clean. The baby's dad has never had any problems, so the chances your son will are remote!

    http://www.noharmm.org/mothering.htm



    - An baby's uncircumcised p***s requires NO special attention. You don't need to clean under the f******n after every diaper change! He'll discover his f******n whenever he's ready (which won't be retractable until the age of 5-10) and then its a case of simply educating him about his own personal hygiene.

    http://www.circumstitions.com/Care.html

    I think you should leave your son’s p***s intact — He’ll be a bit of perfection when he’s born so 'if it aint broke dont fix it'! If he wants to get it done when he is a consenting adult then he can, but if you circumcise him at birth, its irreversible.

  19. we are proud moms that circumcised their sons. how would those proud moms feel if when their sons were old enough,tied down their proud moms , striped her down, and cut her up the same way she did her son.

  20. Circumcision does NOT prevent HIV. The study they did in Africa was flawed, and the scientists are now retracting the information. I mean, really, think about it, how could a piece of skin make you more susceptible to AIDS. The men they studied were not properly screened, there was no long term study done on their sexual orientation, and the testing was not properly administered. The fact is that men who participate in risky behavior are more likely to get AIDS. HArdly any men in Europe are circumcised and their incidents of AIDS are way lower than the US where circumcision is at about 50%.

    Scientist have now proven that f******n actually can help protect against some STD's. It is a necessary piece of skin that is there for a reason. It does not look odd strange, or is it less clean that circumsized men. The opposite in fact. It helps protect against infection.

    Sorry..just hate it when I hear people say this as areson for circumsizing, when they haven't actually done any research on the subject.

    Please do your own research. It is a completely silly, ridiculous procedure, and so cruel and painful. Most doctors won't even perform it anymore. And the risk of post-op infection is very high.

  21. It doesn't need fixing unless it is broken. My uncle had to be circumcised for medical reasons when a baby. That's the only reason I'd circumcise mine. Not that their daddy would allow it even if I wanted to. He's very, uh, attached to his!

  22. I'm circumcised but I wish that I wasn't. I regret that my parents made that decision for no good reason, so personally I'm completely against it. If your kid wants to be circumcised let him do it by his choice when he gets older. It is HIS body after all! Circumcision is not medically necessary, it's optional and it's only necessary for religion if you are Jewish or Muslim.  

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  24. Circumcision is a very touchy subject.  It is a good idea to circumcise because 1. a child uncircumsized is subject to urinary tract infections because the skin does not always get pulled back and cleaned, this also affects them later in life as well. 2. circumcision protects against some unwated diseases such as HIV when the child becomes older and sexual. A baby does not remember the cicumcision and it is a quick 10 minute process that heals in 1 week.  

  25. Well, it is like trying to solve a medical problem he may never have. For instance.. remove his toenails now... you never know if they will become ingrown if you don't.

    Frankly, I think unless you are particularly religious and ritual demands that you circumscise your baby, I consider that there is no logical explanation for lopping off the end of your son's d**k.

    As with all babies, the best way to look after your son, or daughter and prevent infection is to let htem kick in the bathtub every night until the water gets too cold. Its a fun time for bub and dad or mum.. or both. Dang it, everyone should get in the tub!

    As a parent you do not have to ever do anything unusual... like pulling on his f******n. Leave it alone. He will play with it when he is good and ready... and at that point he can also be informed about how to wash it.

  26. Your child could choose later in life if he would want to be circumcised, i don't see any reason to force the choice upon them.  

  27. Circumcision is male genital mutilation, just as much as female circumcision is also mutilation.

    Circumcision can kill.   I never heard of a f******n killing anyone.

    From Medical News Today, 09 JUN 2008

    Newborn Circumcision:  The Controversy Revisited

    "    The jury is still out, but the take home message was that circumcision is not without its complications and one of these complications is death."

    "    It appears to be a risky procedure with truly little medical indication in the newborn period."

    ---Annual Meeting of the American Urological Association (AUA)

    www.urotoday.com

    Yes indeed, one complication is death.    Others include gangrene, catastrophic infection, partial or complete sexual dysfunction in adult life and more.

    I was a victim of male genital mutilation.    In my case, the nerve damage inflicted on me was more than the average, making it impossible for me to achieve o****m in normal s*x.     I didn't discover what the problem was until years later.     I'm restoring my f******n and have achieved far greater sensitivity and orgasmic intensity than I ever thought possible.

    "lab girl" should have a female circumcision performed on herself, then she can experience first hand that the healing period is more like six weeks, and the damage and scarring last a lifetime.

    Genital mutilation is mutilation.

    A f******n is not a birth defect; it is a birthright.

    His body, his decision.

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