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Immigration debate vs. Racism?

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I was wondering, since being called out as a flaming racist for wanting people to obey our laws, if the Legal Hispanic community who also agrees that illegals are breaking the law and shoudl be punished or deported - are they racist too?

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  1. let me settle this.

    ILLEGAL is illegal. if i kill someone its illegal. if i rob someone its illegal. if i go to mexico illegal(not that they would care) its illegal.

    other countrys have alot stricker pollicies agaisnt illegal immagration look it up


  2. No,wanting our laws obeyed no matter what your skin color doesn't make you racist,it makes you a good American.

  3. It's a double standard dude. They would probably not be considered racist. You make a valid point. And you have a valid point to be concerned with illegal immigration. I'm not going to get into the possibility of our working conditions, pay and benefits declining due to people willing to work for less and less. Although, I will mention that immigration levels were extremely high in 1890-1919....then we had the Great Depression. Now, the same thing seems to be happening. I'm not sure our economy can deal with change fast enough not to allow something like this to happen. It'll probably be better than before though, hopefully. Next time someone says that you are a racist, let them know that you are just concerned about the economy.

  4. Your question is very twisted, but I will humor you

    You are a racist because you show your hatred against non WASP immigrants. I have never seen anyone ranting against WASP illegal immigrants

    There ! Happy now ?

    And besides, I am not sure that those that rant against the illegals obey ALL THE LAWS themselves. I really, really doubt it

  5. no some of them who come here bring drugs and join gangs and kill us, sure not all of them do but we should shut down the border because american lives are worth it

  6. "Give me your tired. your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore; send these, the homeless, the tempest-tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door"...... I guess they don't teach that in school any more.

  7. Illegals have no right to be here, many illegals are racist the most have a sense of "entitlement" which means..........for some freaky strange uneducated reason, they think the have the "right" to be here. Freaking lame as all h**l.

    Illegals have committed a crime by taking a dump on our immigration laws all because they don't' want to wait or think its too hard to come here legally. Talk about crappy morals. Pathetic.

    Deport.

  8. Im so tired of the word racist,its used as a cuss word or an insult  most of the time. Its definatly worn out. PC goes both ways. Illegals are hypocrits when they call anyone racist.

  9. Not everyone who do not want the undocumented is a racist , however no one can deny than the anti-immigrant movement is plagued with people who are in fact racist and which show that racism not only by continuously talking about the Hispanics but by showing their inability to understand simple matters such as :

    every person in this country having to pay taxes not matter what .

    most of the undocumented actually being good people and not the monsters some like to pretend .

    the fact than 60 percent of the food we eat comes from their working hands .

    the fact than most would not do the kind of jobs many of them do many times being under-payed by abusive Americans .

    the fact than most people would do the same if the USA had wages 10 times less than what we currently have a minimum wage .

    the fact than many times they are the result of bad policies which were imposed to them by American corporations which took them out of business and were helped by the USA government .



    anyways my guess is than the inability to see the positives in them is a good indicative of some kind of racism even from people from the same ethnic group . plus when i see people spreading lies all i can think of its than there is a lot of hate involved obviously .

  10. it's not racist to say you don’t want rampant illegal immigration. It’s not racist to say that you’re uncomfortable surrounded by people who don’t speak English. It’s not racist to fear your job being taken by somebody else who will work for less.  It's not racist to be anti criminal.

    Despite the claims by the pros on this website, I am not racist.  And neither are any of the Mexican immigrants here legally who are disgusted with the negative impact that the 10 million illegal Mexican criminals in the US have on their reputation.

    You Don't Speak For Me is a great website for those legal Mexican Americans who want to make it abundantly clear how they feel on this topic.

    http://www.dontspeakforme.org/

  11. the people that say "been againts illegal immigrants is racist" are retards, and I tend to agree agree more with people that do want immigration reform and even I know that racism shouldnt be on the table.

    this is assuming of course that your issue is directly with illegal immigrants not Hispanics, in other words you actually have no issues with Hispanics and DONT assume all hispanics are illegal and im sure you know that..

    having said that, so long as you can use proper reasoning, ie. Economic, political and/or judicial reasons for your cause then you shouldnt be consider a racist..

    A lot of times however people make their choices on a very uneducated matter which tends to form this racial lines that shouldnt exist. before i made a choice i actually did research and came up with my own conclusion based on empirical data not people yieling "they took rrrr juuubs" or " if you hate illegals you are racist" just any time someone asks you why you have X position be ready to give good reasoning behind it other than just saying illegal is illegal

  12. Yeah you think its bad now wait until you have AU in Britain we are flooded thanks to the EU and its coming your way fast

    If it ain't nailed down say goodbye

  13. Illegal is not race, but pros can't let go of the race card because out of a deck of 52, that is the only card they are left with.

    They are morally bankrupt, devoid of real love for the US and they are on their way out.

    28 more votes and the SAVE act will make all this irrelevant.

    Mando you are a brown stain... nothing more. Only a loser like you can't make a point without posting the same worthless c**p, day after day. Must get old opening new accounts 5 times a day.

  14. dude,smoke and mirrors from the left.everybody is a racist when it comes to protecting your own............time to get real !

  15. i am mexican and i belive that illegal people should only be deported if they criminals but if they are not comiting crimes they have a right to be here

  16. Some ppl use racist 2 much. I don't think some ppl is racist for wanting the laws followed. But the ppl that says stuff like ~  is this those Mexicans morals and stuff those ppl is and  get me mad coz I got friends thats Mexican and their really good ppl. 1 saved my husbands life and I would die for him. I don't think we should talk bad about nobody and should stick with the words illegal and not say things about one kind all the time. Or make it sound like all of them is illegal coz their not.

  17. I lift my lamp beside the golden door"

    Why on earth can't immigrants who enter illegal see the darn golden door, it's lit up for Pete's sake. And why do they choose to p**s on the golden door or go thought he back door.

    I think the Statue of Liberty needs to be updated.  The lit up golden door isn't even used anymore by these criminals.  I guess they don't teach rules, laws, morals, or consequence in school anymore.

  18. Any illegal who comes here is committing a crime not just one but many. ID fraud is a crime, any illegal will either buy or steal a SS# supporters claim alright,that's alright as Long as it's not their numbers. Driving without license is a crime,driving without insurance is a crime,so where do they get some illegals break laws and some don't..I guess they would be racist. The most important matter to advocates is that illegals come before Americans

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