In the work place - we all were giving a form to sign stating no firearms at work and or in car.?

Question

Question is, by the way Im pissed, should I sign the form or make up my own form stating- Due to some reason I get car jacked, robbed at gun point, assalted, etc They will be held responsible- due Im not allowed to carry my gun for protection, and work in a high crime area. whats youre idea on this??????

Answer 1

If the form states that it is for your safety or employee safety, sign it and note that you are happy and grateful to know that your family will be cared for above and beyond any company/group life insurance program, regardless if it happens going to, from or at work, since they are taking full responsibility for your safety, responsibility which you would take care of yourself if they had not volunteered to do so.  Then ask for a copy to give to your attorney in case something happens to you.

NOTE: Employers who do this are NOT ensuring a safe working environment for their employees, in fact all the corporate/business place murders have occurred where that sort of policy is in place, it is mandated by the CSHA, the Criminal Safety and Health Administration, and all who support this type of rule support criminals.

Answer 2

If by chance you live in Florida the agreement is most likely moot and non binding as you may take a firearm to work where it must remain in your car during you work period.  The employer may not search your car for a firearm and said search would also be illegal.

Answer 3

Criminals prefer you to be unarmed, since you are an easier victim, a position that it would appear that your employer supports.

Since your employer is fine with you being a victim of a violent crime they have no moral standing in this.  While they could terminate your employment for carrying a firearm on property, they would still be in the wrong.

Unhappily much of life is balance between morality and pragmatism.  The moral thing to do is not be a victim of crime.  The pragmatic thing to do is not get fired.  

So lie to your employer, who deserves nothing better, tell them you would never carry a firearm on premise, but then carry as you always would.  Just recognize the consequence is that you might lose your job, which is infinitely preferable to losing your life.

Answer 4

No.  Your employer wants to ensure that there is a safe working environment for their workers.  Remember, this is a free country.  If you don't want to sign it, you don't have to work there.

Answer 5

In Florida a new law went into affect last month that allows guns in your car at the work place.  Disney is contesting it in court.  If it is not illegal in your state, the employer can make their own rules.  

Answer 6

Your employer is free to impose any legal conditions he wants on your continued employment. It's a free country. You have the right to work there or not as you choose, and he has the right to keep you on, or fire you, as HE chooses.

He can also legally fire you if you ask him to sign your made up "you'll be held responsible" form.

Now, that said, IF you come to work and get robbed, and you can make a reasonable argument that the robbery would not have occurred had you been armed, you can sue him for your damages on the grounds that he is responsible, whether you placed him on notice of this or not.

Rules that prohibit people with firearms permits from carrying on private property are a minefield, and are very foolish, IMHO.

The fact is that people who've undergone the necessary background checks and training to get a CCW do not commit firearm crimes. Less than 1/10 of 1% of firearm crimes in the US last year were committed by people with CCW's. A sign on a building, though, that prohibits firearms is a notice to potential armed criminals that the building is safe to rob as it contains only unarmed victims. There have been lawsuits by crime victims against business owners on that basis after robberies, but as yet none have gone to trial, because the insurers are unwilling to risk a precedent setting case, and have settled.

Richard

Answer 7

MadMan is right.  Businesses have the right to say no firearms are permitted and they cannot be held responsible for something that may happen to you.  If you don't agree, find another job that doesn't have a "no weapons" policy.