In your opinion, how could feminism be better for BOTH genders??

Question

It's your time to rant. We can identify so many problems and regurgitate a bunch of information...But can we apply a solution to these problems?

Your thoughts :).

Answer 1

It can't. Because it doesn't serve both genders feminism is about women only.

Regardless of feminisms claim to be for children and by some weird extension also helps males. This is pure falsehood.

The only way to acheive equality is for feminism to be done away with and for men and women to start something new.

Feminism had it's shot and blew it. It started out as something good but became a twisted monster that survives only for as long as it can claim victimhood.

And as we have all seen women aren't the victims feminism paints them out to be. After all aren't they the ones who claim that women can do anything a man can do that includes the bad stuff too.

Answer 2

Well...feminism has questioned the traditonal gender role, either for men or wome, in this way, any men or wome who doesn't want to be trapped on thad gender role, have more options. In this way a man can be a stay at home father, and a woman can be engineer.

Answer 3

I think more focus on social justice for blue collar workers and worker

unions.  While women are becoming empowered in the business world we may be passing the same evils into their hands that we men have abused for so long.  If you go into any manufacturing area you see men and women slaving and becoming more and more powerless.

Rich and well educated men never cared for the bodily health of the  men who performed the blue collar work.  Women being placed in management positions are trained to view blue collar workers the same way.  The problem has gotten progressively worse due to out-sourcing. Now you have women and men in sweat shops doing dangerous, exhausting work for menial pay.  It is my hope that global feminist take up this cause and that as women gain the power to issue executive directives this type of bottom line greedy economic practice comes under attack.  

I see the impact of male on male chauvinism everyday.  I make suggestions to upper-management to improve the ergonomics of specific task for specific departments.  In some areas I suggest the addition of another employee or tools to make his or her job safer and less strenuous.  But alas, cash rules all. Men are expected to just, man up, suck it up, ante- up or whatever you want to call it.  In the mean time OSHA recordable accidents keep racking up.  

So my concern is restoring power and dignity to the men and women of the lower economic classes.  The union busting has taken away what little dignity and say they had.  I don't believe we can ever have the type of equality we all seek without bridging these gaps between the classes.   This also needs to be fixed in order to bring about some unity and contentment among male and female coworkers who perform manual physical labor.  Often males blame feminism for what they feel is extra physical work thrown at them.  In actuality the problem existed before any woman punched a time-clock.  Privaledged men have been treating poor men like beast of burden for centuries. Until this underlying problem gets fixed I doubt we can have total equality.

As I stated at the top of my answer we don't need abuses shifting hands from male corporate slave-drivers to female corporate slave-drivers.  Let's work on abolishing legal slavery instead.

Answer 4

April the Great - I second that.

Answer 5

It can't..

It can't benefit both because it focuses only on one gender and discriminated against the other.

Answer 6

To me feminism is not just about equal outcome and equal opportunities... rationally its more than that, its about untying the knots tied by men during eons of civilizations, defining a woman's place, purpose, rights in a society. And teaching and familiarizing the current generation of males to understand the irrational aspects of such bias and help them reason and make them realize why undoing them is critically important.

Its totally unethical for them to bask in their old glory and think rationally and accept and execute the necessary changes, for the betterment of the society as whole.

The more the conservative and traditionalist male population resists this .. the feminist point of view and its exertion gets stronger.

And finally to all those men whinein about how modern feminist discriminate again them. well i would like to say they are getting a taste of their own medicine. thass how it feels and it still feels for feminists too. for u its been the past two decades . For feminists its been since i donno when ....

Answer 7

Full and equal human rights for all is better for everyone, including both genders.  It should be the starting point for any discussion of how to help people in society, and until it's achieved, there's not much point for me, in speculating as to what else might help them.  Let people help themselves, and then we can see who might need extra help  :-)

Answer 8

Well feminists are a disliked minority because they are c/-unts so the question is moot.

Answer 9

Equal rights under the law and no discrimination based on s*x is best for both men and women.

Answer 10

Feminism could be better for everyone if Linda Hirshman, Gloria Steinem, Oprah, and all the other contemporary feminists stood up and apologized to women for promoting such a destructve livestyle.

Then they need to apologize to all the men for using them as wipping boys.

Then they need to apologize to all the children that had to raise themselves because their selfish mothers were too busy not being burdened with their needs.

Then they need to go away and never be heard from again.

Answer 11

Tracey: The rotating parents thing was a joke right ? Excluding the lengthy list of problems that would go with that, you said yourself that "...the parents would have to live in the same school district...not very practical", but somehow living in the same house is an improvement ?

Answer 12

feminists can be better for both genders by actually meaning what they say when they talk about equality .

Answer 13

As applied now, a 50/50 split in custody hurts children...being shuttled back and forth between two houses would be exhausting, mentally and physically, for kids. (And the parents would have to live in the same school district...not very practical.)

Someone once made a suggestion that divorced parents with children should retain the family home, and the children live in it full time...the parents just rotate in and out each week or every four or five days.

I thought that was a great idea.  

Answer 14

No.

Its called FEMinism for a reason you know. Feminism empowers women, gives them rights and opportunities they've never had before....but that just means that men have to work TWICE as hard to get/ keep their jobs as well as get/ maintain their marriage.

Remember the traditional female roles were seen as 'weak' so men having to do this now, is in no way "liberating" or "empowering" TO men.

Think of it this way, with the increase in childrens rights comes a porportional limitation of parent's ability to descipline/ control their children.  

Answer 15

( blank look on face)

oh well... you want me dont you? lol

Answer 16

Im not sure it can. Its highly fragmented and all of them say they are good for both genders. If thats the case why do so many feel at odds to this?

I thought i would link this as well .. it covers a few details.

http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs09.pdf

Answer 17

I second Rio Madeira’s answer. No matter how much we hate to admit it we all pretty much want the same thing. Both men and women want to be able to work or own an establishment that pays well and brings forward profit; we all want ownership of personal property; we all want to be either married too/or in a relationship with someone who loves us for who we are (and we love them the same) and we all want an equal balance of acceptance and respect.

The reason why we as people have problems finding these things in life is because we’re spend more time pointing fingers and finding blame with one another, then we do working together to achieve that equal balance that we all seek. And we can sit here and blame that miscommunication between the sexes on feminism all day if we want too, but what does it really solve? Where do we end up at, and what have we accomplished after we pull stat’s from on line, provide links to articles to down play the opposing parties arguments, and swop insults as a means of discrediting someone else’s opinion?

The reason why feminism was even born was so that the social injustices (in that day and age) against women or those less fortunate could be combated and changed for the better. But what has happened over the years (like with any other movement) it has taken on a whole new mission statement than what was originally planned. So this leads to the women who hate men based on the experiences they’ve had with them in the past, and men who rebel against anything that can be equated to the feminist movement due to feelings of being ostracized, criticized, and made to pay for the actions of a few.

The only way we can make feminism work for everyone is if we all take the time to actually approach it with an open mind, understand why it came about, how it benefits us and the women in our lives, and figure out what we as people can do to improve it vs. ridiculing in those who believe in what it originally stood for. I seriously doubt that feminist are trying to take away the constitutional rights of all men; and I doubt they feel that any woman who doesn’t stand with them is against them. The feminist that I have met both in here and in my family (past and present) don’t preach half that stuff I see people in here say they do. How about try and sit down with a well known and recognized organization and speaking with them before we cast judgment on all of them.