Is AGW causing Australia to suffer through its coldest summer in 50 years and China its coldest winter in 100?

Question

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ae6GlcvBtldY&refer=home

Answer 1

SHUT UP YOU FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!he has no idea what he's talking about, he's on meth...ALL A U!!!!!!!!!

Answer 2

Well the funny thing about this is that people who belive in GW will tell you that if an area is setting all time lows then its just the weather. but if the same area is setting all time highs then its GW. Yes it sounds crazy but thats what they say. But the thing about it is, and using their logic, if hot temps mean global warming then cold temps must mean global cooling! Am i not right with that?

Answer 3

No. Earth's natural weather can overcome global warming for a short time.  It happened in 1982, 1991-1992, 1999-2000.  EVERY TIME man made global warming came back stronger than ever.  Proof.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/

discussed in detail, with confirmation, at:

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/g...

As long as we keep making greenhouse gases in enormous amounts, global warming will dominate in the long run.  It's simple physics.

http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/earthguide/di...

EDIT - Asterisk - Thanks for the thought, but I think I'll go with what thousands of climatologists say instead.

Kent - The 5 year rolling average marched on and up after 2000.  Look at the data (links above).  And read your whole article, particularly the last paragraph.  Their point is that anthropogenic global warming (which they agree with) could be much more disastrous than present projections.

Answer 4

"As long as we keep making greenhouse gases in enormous amounts, global warming will dominate in the long run. It's false physics."

I fixed this for Bob.  He had made a slight typo.

Hey Bob,  I've got 17,200 scientists on my side.  How many you got?

Answer 5

The sun is late in starting it next solar cycle.  This means we have had low levels of solar activity for a couple of years now.  Is it coincidence that we have had the biggest drop in temperatures during the past 30 years?

Answer 6

Possibly.

In the MWP similar warming produced a prolonged La Nina phase.

It's not two separate phenomena, the La Nina and the global warming, any more than eddies and current are separate.

Can I prove this?    No.    But neither "side" in this debate can prove their case either, and my explanation makes a lot of sense given that that's what happened last time.  

We're repeating history.

And the way to determine whether we have a material effect is to see if it unfolds differently this time.

So far it has not.

EDIT - I also don't know what Bob is referring to with "1999-2000" - - - the overall warming has yet to resume.

Answer 7

Fact: January 2008 was Australia’s warmest January on record, with a mean temperature 1.23°C above the reference (1961−90) normal, breaking the previous record of +1.16°C set in January 1999.

One cold month on a continent, hardly warrants the ludicrous rhetoric that Australia "suffer through its coldest summer in 50 years".

So the correct answer to your question is "NO".

Answer 8

GW is just hype ,there are changing variables all the time . It has given the energy co. an excuse to charge 3 prices . It will be bad for the poor.

Answer 9

This type of faulty logic resembles a gambler who wins or loses big a few times and thinks these events trump overall trends. You need to take some math classes and learn about probabilities and trends. This reasoning is not convincing to anyone who is educated, especially since we know the overall world temperature is steadily rising.

I could just as easily counter argue with the same flawed logic and say something like "Ha! Looks like those record cold spells disprove all the skeptic arguments about increased solar activity, volcanos, etc..."

You can't take it a la carte.