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Is Bruce Lee rlly the father of MMA? sorry guys im dumb, i need gud answers pls?

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if he is... do u guys think he can take on a MMA champ these days in his prime?

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  1. Uh... no. Founder of Jeet Kun Do, that's about it.


  2. First of all.. is MMA really mixed martial arts?  Or is it a bunch of kids who saw Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie fights and "wanted to be like them when they grew up"?  For all of you die-hard MMA fans out there.. take a minute and realize what you're watching.  In my opinion, a great majority of the MMA fighters out there (I do believe there are some true martial artists mixed in the crowd) are a bunch of no-talent bums who think getting punched in the face and thrown to the ground is cool.  They lack skill and exhibit poor technique.  Again.. this is my opinion, but I feel it is backed with some pretty valid support.

    In response to your question..  Watch the movie "Enter the Dragon."  Take a look at those gloves that Bruce is sporting in his fight with Sammo Hung.  My understanding is that those were his design, and very much resemble the "MMA gloves" fighters utilize today.  For those who think Bruce couldn't grapple.. take a look at that fight as well.  Bruce Lee taught the "ranges of combat": long (kicking), mid (punching), close (trapping), and ground (grappling).  Can anyone sit there and tell me that this doesn't resemble "mixed martial arts"??  

    I agree that fighters throughout history did what they needed to do to win a fight.  If it ended up on the ground, they did what they had to do.  But before Bruce Lee, how prominent was cross-training in martial arts amongst practitioners of his time?  I cannot confidently say that no one did it before him, but it is very obvious that he presented it to the martial arts community.

  3. Thats kind of a strech.

    Bruce Lee was the founder of Jeet Kune Do, which is a martial art that is based on practically and combined different techniques and styles from older established martial arts to establish a martial art that had a formless form, so that it could be adapted to any situation. This is a basic concept of MMA in which fighters utilize a variety of martial arts depending on the situation, and are thus not limited by the style that they practice.

    With regards to could he take them in his prime, probably not. There is a certain style and training MMA fighters are familiar with that could give them an advantage. Although Bruce Lee did have the inch punch in his arsenal. furthermore bruce lee was big proponent of practically in martial arts and said that if his opponent had him pinned, he would bite him to escape the pin

  4. No he wasn't. If Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do can be cosidered MMA, so can ancient Greek fighting style Pankration.

  5. No way. Most martial artist throughout time have always mad etheir art by incorporating styles form various arts. Hapkido, Aikido, JKD, Krav Maga, Kyokushin, Panther, Monkey, all these styles are hybrids, and even very old styles are taken form various fighting styles.The oldestknown example is pankration form Greece, this style is in the process of being re-vived by various martial artist, with Jim Arvanitis at the forefront.

  6. Actually, the person considered in MMA circles to be the father of modern MMA is "Judo" Gene Lebell.  Oh and FYI him and Bruce Lee got along like a nut and bolt, they were really good friends.  Gene Lebell is the person who introduced the idea in modern sports circles to mix it up with the styles, but Bruce Lee would have to have been the person who got everyone's attention about it, with Ken Shamrock doing the most to popularize it.

    If I had to put a timeline of modern MMA;

    1)  Gene Lebell was the first in modern sports martial arts to introduce the idea of mixing it up regarding styles.

    2)  Bruce Lee was the person who demonstrated it is better to be prepared and not be one dimensional regarding style.

    3)  Even though the Gracies came before and started the UFC which went from a "Gracie challenge" to an outright sporting event, MMA was not truly recognized and popularized until Ken Shamrock.  Shamrock was versed in several different styles of grappling, ranging from catch, to Japanese pro wrestling, and of course "shooto" as they call it over there.  In time he learned submission holds from various Judoka, and from Maurice Smith he learned Muay Thai.  So, Lebell started it, Lee showed it worked and got everyone's attention but most people remained stubborn until Shamrock, who used it in a publicized and at the time controversial competition, showed everyone it worked.

    People ignored Lee because he was an actor, also, he was more interested in street fights, than sports competition, thus, there is no one "father" of MMA as the sport is a contribution of 3 men, namely Lebell, Lee, and Shamrock who because he was in an actual sports competition, could be said to be the father of MMA by default.

    The Gracies don't count, because they are BJJ specialists.

    Also, Bruce Lee in his prime?

    The people who knew him, martial artists themselves, are all unanimous in the fact that there isn't a single MMA fighter alive who could have taken Lee, regardless of weight or size.  He was too lightning fast for one, and very strong for his size.

    Against someone in Bruce Lee's league, at most an MMA fighter would not last much longer than 10 seconds, gloves and all, regardless of weight difference.

    Hey, I agree that size CAN matter.

    If its, say, Oscar De La Hoya against the Incredible Hulk, or, its a weight difference of 200 lbs or more.

    Since the great majority of people may be big but not gigantic "size doesn't matter."

    To a point; again, if its Oscar De La Hoya against The Hulk then, yeah, sure, I agree.

    Bruce Lee against Ken Shamrock though..... come on now it just isn't the same.

    later.

  7. MMA has been around for ages it just turned out that lots and lots of arts choose to stick to one thing only but there were plenty of arts that already mixed things up before, I'd say "MMA" was born with the UFC, either that or it was born too long ago to pin point because there were mixed competitions ages ago, things like pankration for instance and many more

    If BRuce learned some grapling he would do alright in MMA, maybe since he was more of an actor and not a fighter, but I doubt he would pass the drug test

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