Is Massa up to the job and is Kimi just collecting money for his pension fund like irvine did?

Question

in his last years at ferrari?

Massa was so slow he couldn't even catch the renault at the end ?

Answer 1

Massa is very hit and miss and is easily upset by anyone and anything - he seems to sulk if things don't go his way.  He is not consistent with his driving.  And Kimi seems to be a bit complacent sometimes in a race and doesn't seem to try, then all of a sudden, he wakes up.  He was like it when he drove for McLaren so once again, he is not consistent.  I think that Ferrari are losing the plot - they are missing Ross Brawn and Jean Todt.  And Kimi hates Schumacher, so having him at the racetrack on Sunday might be the reason that Kimi didn't want to try -,he hates being told what to do by Schumacher.

Answer 2

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Massa will now be a weaker opponent after Hockenheim when challenged by Hamiton - and as for Kimi, I am very concerned about his motivation. I never thought I would be saying that about him...

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Answer 3

Why are people slating Raikkonen's motivation? He just couldn't get the set-up right here, that's all. After the safety car he was 10th, and he overtook 4 cars to salvage 6th place...doesn't sound like he's lacking anything really.

Massa on the other hand. When he's good he really gets the job done. But he's not good in the wet, he's not good under pressure and he's unreliable. I do think there are others that probably deserve the Ferrari seat more, but I don't doubt Massa's raw pace for a moment.

Answer 4

its hard to tell, i think overall it was a mediocre race for ferrari... idk about kimi, im still trying to figure out if hes going thru a bad phase or if he just doesnt care.

Answer 5

I'm not a fan of Ferrari but I do like Massa. I think its just the cars, they are not the red arrows streaking into the distance like everyone expected and the drivers are suffering the consequences. I have a feeling that Felipe will be a bit despondent by Lewis monstering him the way he did, but he will get over it and prove again that he is a good driver. I don't think Kimi would be driving if he didn't enjoy it. I think he would have retired by now if he was just in it for the money.

Answer 6

they are both rubbish, and are just there for the glamour..

Answer 7

Massa as I've always said, is like a yoyo. He does brilliantly well in a few races and then has a few dismal ones. So I'm not really sure he's WC material but he could prove me wrong.

As for Kimi, he is a very good driver who just lacks a bit in the luck department. He couldn't get the right set up for Germany. He'll always give it his best shot even if he is going to retire soon. He won't be in F1 just for the sake of money.

Answer 8

Massa is getting wobbly like he did at mid point last season, he MUST concentrate as its his best ever championship chance.

Kimi is capable of more but seems un willing to push himself.

Lewis or Kubica are the only drivers giving it their all, even though the Ferrari is the better car imao.

Answer 9

i think ferrari are going backwards and not forwards.Felipe was complaining how his car was not up to pace as it was in free practise on friday.I think kimi, he sometimes has on and off races. If hes having a bad day, it might follow up to the weekend. I think its just the cars because mclaren have improved theres quite a bit.