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Is Roulette beatable longterm?

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I've searched all over the internet for the answer but have gotten a lot of "yes" and a lot of "no". I figure I should ask some experienced gamblers...so is it beatable (and profitable) longterm using a well planned out betting system?

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  1. There are only two methods that have been proven to create an advantage at a roulette table, and neither one can be done successfully at any modern casino.

    The first is called "tracking." That is where a player can watch the wheel after the ball has been dropped and determine the general area where it will fall based on the ball and wheel speed. The only way to hone this skill to the level of making it effective is to buy a casino quality roulette wheel, then spend hundreds or even thousands of hours practicing. The problem is, you must find a very bad dealer who spins the wheel and ball at such a consistent speed that you can predict where the ball will go, then be fast enough at placing bets that you can predict the section after the ball has been spun, then drop down 5 or 6 bets before the croupier waves you off.

    In modern casinos, dealers are trained well enough that this environment almost never comes up, and if it does, the eye in the sky or pit boss may notice and switch him out or remind him to change up his roll speed.

    The second way to beat a roulette wheel is to find a biased wheel. This is a roulette wheel with a small tilt in it that tends to favor a particular section. The only way to find a biased wheel is to track a whole slew of wheels for thousands of spins, then hope the casinos don't notice it's biased before you do. Modern wheels are built so well and casinos keep such close track of their results that's it impossible to find and take advantage of a biased wheel.

    Anyone who tells you a betting method, or way of "predicting" the next number to come up based on wheel patterns (or any other BS) is full of c**p. No betting method can overcome the edge at a roulette table, and if anyone had a reliable way of predicting the next number to come up they'd be sitting at a roulette wheel making millions, not selling their strategy on the internet.


  2. Definitely no. This is due to house advantage. But if we bet very carefully and if we use big staking plan than we can minimize the risk.

    I discover some system with which I made a steady profit for almost one year. But of course - I used live roulette wheel because RNG is worthless. This is how I made a profit in roulette.

    But sure, sports betting is far better to bet than roulette :)

  3. Wrong answers.  You can always win at roulette, despite the zero.  The simplest way is by betting on the even money options and doubling the stake if you lose.  That way, hoever many times you lose, when you win you are in profit.  There are other versions of this which are less susceptible to the table limit, but in the end the slight advantage to the casino is irrelevant.  It can be shown mathematically that you win in the long term.

    The disadvantage of the Martingale system is you can reach the table limit too quickly, but in the more subtle Labouchere or variants this is less of a problem.  But the point is that it is the table limit which can work against you and not the zero on the wheel.  By betting different amounts on different spins you make it irrelevant.

  4. I hate to disagree with most of the answerers, but I do. I have played roulette for over 20 years and, although my success started a pure luck, I believe there are circumstances that lend well to a system that can turn a good profit quickly.

    As with most successful systems, it takes patience, practice, discipline, a nice bankroll, time and (of course) a little luck.

    The thing most people don't understand about roulette is that it is not as random as it looks. A good dealer can hit a number, or at least make it close most of the time. Safeguards are put in so players cannot take advantage of these things, but the dealers get lazy and bored and they slip up. It is completely feasible to walk up to a table hit two of four, or three of five rolls and moving on without anybody thinking anything about it.

    The first key is to know the game-- Know, first, the wheel and then the table. You need to know every number's position-- frontwards and backward. For example, you, specifically, need to know what number is 12 spaces to the right (clockwise) of 13-black and the 2-3 numbers directly to the right and left of that number, and where those numbers are on the table to get your bets down. You need to know this quick-- within 5-10 seconds and, most importantly, you need to look like you are not doing it. More on this later.

    Once you know that wheel, grab a piece of paper and a pencil. Go to your local casino and sit at the bar where you can see the roulette table. Look at the board that they post all the rolled numbers and jot them down. As you look at the numbers picture where they are on the wheel. Look at the progression.

    You may see that one number is 8 to the left of the one before it and it was 7 to the left of the one before it and it was 10 to the left of the one before it. It may not happen all the time, but it will happen eventually.

    See-- what happens is: the dealer gets in a groove. The wheel continues to spin at, basically, the same speed. The dealer grabs the ball and habitually spins it the same way (the same timing and same speed) over and aver again. Now there are things that throw him out of sinc from time to time but, especially at the end of a shift, if they are good and consistent, they often fall into this groove.

    Your object is to find it and jump on it. If a dealer is rolling numbers 7-10 to the left of the previous number 3 out of four times, put a 5-dollar check on the numbers 6-11 left for a roll or two. If you hit, keep on going. If you miss--bail.

    You may have to wait a while for the dealer to hit the groove. That is why it is important to have a decent bankroll and a lot of patience. Just bet the min until you find it. It also helps if the table is crowded and others are winning because then all of the attention is not focused on you.

    It's not foolproof, but they wouldn't call it gambling if it was. It has worked for me and it seems so simple when you really think about it. I wish you success

  5. No casino games are "beatable" long term.  The odds are always, always against you.  The best odds in a casino are the odds behind the pass line on the craps table.  On the roulette table, a straight-up winner only pays 35 to 1, but there are 38 numbers on the wheel (unless you find a single 0 table, then there are 37) . That alone puts the odds against you.

  6. The answer is an emphatic "NO" and do not listen to Andrew, he is describing a Martingale System, which does not have any long-term success.  Every bet on a roulette table has an advantage to the house, there are no secret combinations of bets that will eliminate this advantage.  Long-term, you are guaranteed to lose.

    The Martingale System is usually the system most people think can be used to "beat" a game.  The theory is, you keep doubling your bet if you lose and, eventually, you win an make up all of your previous loses plus one betting unit of profit.  In theory, this system could work if you had an infinite bankroll and the table had an infinite betting limit, but that ain't the way the real world works.  In the real world, eventually, you hit a real bad streak and you reach either the table betting limit or the end of your bankroll, at which point the system breaks down and you go home broke.  This system is for suckers and it doesn't work.

  7. no, but it is one of the fairest bets at the casino. to increase your chances, try to find single zero tables.

    the reason why you will always lose is that the payouts do not reflect the actual odds. there are 38 numbers (1-36, 0, 00) but the payout if you hit one is 35:1, rather than the fair 38:1. So when you lose, you lose; when you win, you lose.

    [edit] i'd also like to say how wrong andrew is. If you only bet red or black, your odds are not 50:50, but 47:53.

  8. No, in the longterms its not going to lead to profit. The roulette has around 4% advantage for the casino and its always going to be in that way. The only profitable online gambling is poker and sportsbetting because there is also a skill factor. You can always pick a value in sportsbetting and in poker you can rely on your skill.

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