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Is Telekinesis real...is it possible?

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I've always wondered if it was real or not. Moving things using the power of you're mind, thats something that most scientists have yet to explore. I've been trying to learn how to do it...no luck so far. I've been getting lessons from apparently a "professional".

Do any of you out there have the facts about it...? Is it real or just a scam...? Or whats you're opinion...?

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  1. it's very possible to manipulate energy with the right training and dedication.


  2. Telekinesis is today most commonly called psychokinesis (PK). First let's define more clearly what we are talking about. If you are talking about throwing cars with your mind, levitating oranges, etc. then it has never been demonstrated (except via magic tricks). It does seem that moving objects (the first experiments used dice that were thrown) are much easier to influence (not control) because the outcome is still in a state of random flux (later experiments used random number generators). Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/ has studied this for years and has found (despite the skeptics claim to the contrary) years of evidence that supports that human intentions can effect machines (mainly random number gernerators) in ways that are beyond chance and statistically significant. I suggest you go to the source of the research and decide for yourself.

    The problem with the statement "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is that 1. it is not an established rule of science it was Carl Sagan's belief and 2. No one bothers to define what "Extraoridnary evidence" would be

    Apparently defying chance by 10 to the 12th power to 1 (that means that PEAR results have a one in 10 with 12 0's behind it possibility of being due to chance, is not extraordinary enough.

    So, yes it's real and possible and has scientific evidence to support it the effect is just so small (you can't take on Vegas slot machines) that it took years of lab work, millions of trials, and good statistics to show the small effect.

    Please read the research and decide for yourself.

    MIchael John Weaver, M.S.

  3. No it is not real. The most careful and sensitive scientific experiments have failed to find any effect.

  4. It is my beleif that anythign is possible with the power of your mind.  It only takes extreme mental disipline.  But i wouldn't trust anyone who claims they are a "Professional."

  5. It is possible and it is real.

    A friend of mine has done it on numerous occasions.

    It requires focussing the mind and the sub-conscious on a conscious intent.

    Most people are unable to do this.

    Your mind is capable of many things that "science" does not comprehend, and will not acknowledge. Emergencies sometimes bring them out.

    For example a friend was lifting weights while lying on his back on a bench, when a nerve displaced itself in his arm and he lost control completely, in both arms, which allowed 185 pounds of bar weight to drop straight down onto his chest.

    It never hit him because I caught the bar in one hand, curled it upwards and dropped it into the "ears" at the top of the bench. I was not facing him at the time. I was standing at about a 90 degree angle away from him, so only one arm could be used.

    Every engineer I have spoken to about this says it is utterly impossible. Laws of Leverage.

    I weighed 130 pounds, and I had to bend over about 30 degrees sideways, while reaching my arm well away from my body to catch the bar, yet the bar was stopped in mid-fall, and rose smoothly, under full control, with only my hand on the bar as it came up. The entire time involved was not more than three seconds.

    I cannot argue about science or leverage, as attempting to do it afterwards, with all angles kept about the same, showed that placing a static weight of only 30-35 pounds in my hand would pull me off-balance every time.

    Obviously, six times that amount of weight, with the added feature of momentum, since it was falling, is scientifically impossible, but the fact is that it happened and he is alive because the mind overrode science for that moment.

    BTW....it was the same friend.

    And it IS all true.

    E D I T

    Only five negative votes?

    I admit surprise. More were expected, as those who would speak for the scientific community consider themselves and their dogmas sacrosanct, therefore my saying anything that contradicts their stance is even worse than speaking against their religion.

    A few years ago, in a televised experiment, a young girl "proved" that energy healing was not possible, either.

    I watched it at the time, and later read it on the internet. To me it was interesting, because I have been doing it since I was a child, and for years did it only with dogs and cats, and with a very positive response.

    The most impressive result was about six years ago, when four veterinarians told a woman that her cat would die within two days, because it had had a urinary blockage that caused the bladder to swell grossly, and that had done extreme damage to all its internal organs. All four veterinarians examined the cat and all four said there was no medical treatment possible, no matter how much money she was willing to pay. All four recommended euthanasia.

    While she was at the fourth vet's office, she asked me to come there and, after a brief discussion with the vet, she gave the cat to me, with the clear understanding that he could die at any time.

    No standard medical treatment of any kind was administered while the cat was in my care, except for a local vet doing a manual urine release. Two weeks later, Boots, the cat, was returned to her, in good health and with his urinary system functioning normally.

    Four years after that, which was when I last saw her, Boots was still alive and well.

    I am not speaking against scientific beliefs, but merely pointing out that there ARE exceptions that science l absolutely refuses to acknowledge, and will reject outright, simply because it does not fit their chosen norms. Despite scientific refusals, (four verterinarians DO represent medical science, do they not?) one man and one cat are alive, when there was no hope at all.

    Do I hear six negative votes....and counting?

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    F I N A L . E D I T

    Eight negatives....Thank you!

    The subject is telekinesis, which falls into the category of paranormal, and this entire area of discussion is specifically about parapsychology.

    KBW3....good points raised. My ex-wife was hypnotized by her university-graduated, fully-government-approved and properly-licensed psychologist, who convinced her that she had been raped by her father, who was dead by the time this revelation came up.

    It could never be resolved, of course, and it ate at her, and perhaps still does. I think it also contributed to her continuing alcoholism, which was the cause of the marriage failure.

    PSIexploration /Michael also raised an excellent point, which is supported by a lengthy study. Of course, it earned him negative votes from those whose minds are closed..

    A point was also raised about there being an excessive number of skeptics and this is certainly true, as evidenced by the number of negatives assigned to this post.

    There is little, if any, consideration given to the words posted, just non-thinking reaction.

    This is almost certainly because all of the people involved ignore the most fundamental aspect of discussions of the paranormal.

    That fundamental aspect is that there is absolutely no reason of any kind that anything that fits the description of paranormal must meet, follow or satisfy any given "scientific" rationale or formula.

    The world of science is far from static. Some, perhaps many, beliefs that were scientifically absolute a hundred years ago have faded into history as they were replaced with new information.

    Rejecting the existence of something because you do not understand it demonstrates only that your mind is closed, and, following that, if you speak and/or vote against someone who has more understanding than you, your voice only serves to belittle you..

    The initial question about telekinesis was and is perfectly valid and it is not up to existing science to debunk it: it is up to science and scientists to determine unto themselves if their current understanding is not up to par, because it is not searching far enough, or deep enough.

    Literally hundreds of times I have relieved pains from people, and animals, the causes ranging from injury to arthritis, yet I do not pretend to be a healer. It is done through energy and the energy fields, which are both within the body, and outside it. It has nothing to do with what someone else believes, or does not believe.

    After all, I never told the cats or dogs what I was doing but every one of them improved, and did it very quickly.

    It comes down to a simple explanation:

    Something that is true, but does not meet  the supposed "scientific" principles, means one thing only, and that one thing is that it DOES fit the description of paranormal.

    Best wishes to all.

  6. Good question.  Yuri Geller and a few stage magicians aside, there is some evidence that suggests the human mind may be able to influence 'small' things (such as the spin on an electron)

    Doug

  7. Telekinesis... It is not proven or disproven yet, but assume it is very unlikely to exist. Teleportation, on the other hand, does exist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleportati...

  8. IMO, telekinises is real.  I have a few *connections* with very good friends and the man I'm intimate with, and it all done thru the mind.  I can *feel* the *energy* coming thru them, and  one of them, my man, can *feel* it also.

  9. in telekinesis i belive not... the truth inside you you must seek, strong the force is in you

  10. I met a guy once that can bend spoons with his mind. I know that it couldn't have been a trick cause I gave him the spoon, it was my spoon and all he did was hold it in his two fingers at the tip and stare at it for about a minute and then it just started to bend. I don't have any scientific facts but I know what I saw so I would say yeah its possible.

  11. It's a scam.  No one can actually move things with their mind.  Ask you 'professional' why he hasn't applied for the million dollar prize - a 5 min demonstration of his powers would win him a million dollars.  Why doesn't he do it?  Because he can't.  It's a trick, and one a real magician would probably laugh at - he's using magnets, or blowing on the pen, or kicking the table.

    http://www.randi.org

  12. "...scientists have yet to explore..."

    That is not true.  There have been *thousands* of experiments involving the exploration of paranormal abilities.  Scientists don't want to disbelieve the possibility of such abilities existing, they have drawn conclusions from the resulting date from those thousands of experiments.  Imagine what could be done in a world in which the human mind could bridge physical gaps.  Scientists would be all over that.

    The only people that "move" things have turned out to be frauds.  They aren't like the many innocent "true believers"--those who really do believe they have psychic powers but are actually just deluded.  Rather, they are tricksters who intentionally deceive.

    *Every single* person who has claimed TK ability and is willing to perform in a controlled environment has been debunked.  I think that, along with a complete lack of data supporting TK, makes it pretty clear that this is a bunch of nonsense.

  13. No, it's not real and no, it's not possible.  Glad you said "apparently" professional.  There is no such thing.  They are frauds or deluded.  Some have managed to squeeze their way into academia, usually under other pretenses.  Don't let this person get into your head. (Or your pants.)

      I wish I could make you believe this is a fact and not just an opinion.  Such people did hypnosis on many folks who "recovered" memories about childhood traumas.  Dozens of innocent parents were convicted of child molesting on the basis of these revelations to a hypnotist.  Most or all of them have since been released, but some spent years in prison.  Stay away from psychics, parapsychologists, and hypnotists, no matter how charming they may be.

       You can't move things with the power of your mind.  Tell your friend he can go get a million dollars from James Randi if he can do it for him.  The challenge has been there for what, 20 years?  Nobody has yet been able to do what they claim under *reasonable* controls.

  14. ok. the randi challenge does not apply to everyone, only celebrities who make money off of their abilities and are in the public eye. personally, i believe it is real, through the use of psi and the ability to consciously control and communicate with your subconscious mind. I have moments where i can affect electronic equipment, mostly with decibel fluctuation on massive scales. I have caused objects to slowy rotate and i have unlocked doors in my sleep. I am currently trying to learn to control and enhance what little telekinetic abilities i do have. My explanation does go out on a limb, but i feel as if the parapsychology section has been infested with skeptics. :)

  15. I've seen what appeared to be healing supposedly using the power of the mind and what I would guess is some type of magnetic field. I would imagine a person who might really do this isn't originally from this world or mostly anyone else here. There is always room for fraud and special effects of some type. Many believe the Prophet Jesus was able to accomplish these feats. I'm not convinced yet either way, but with the right technology and or illusion, anything could be possible when you know how. But, for right now, it's all just special effects.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/telekinesis.h...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criss_Angel...

  16. Sorry -- based on all available evidence, the brain is a self-contained unit. The chemical interactions that go on inside the brain are confined to the area inside your head.  If you want to move a physical object, you're going to have to use your hands.

    Moving a ballpoint pen (as your professional did) isn't that impressive. Ballpoint pens tend to roll if the surface is even slightly uneven. All that the person would have to do is give the table the slightest nudge (probably unnoticeable to you) to make the pen roll.

    It would be significantly more impressive if the professional could make the pen levitate above the table. Ask him to do that next time. His response will probably be something like, "I don't feel strong enough to do that today" or "That's not the way it works - I can only make it move sideways!"  Invariably, the conversation will then degrade into psycho-babble about waves and energy fields. That's when you know you're dealing with a scam artist.

  17. Sorry I don't think so.All someone would have to do is sit at a table.If they could move even a grain of sand.They would receive $1,000,000.See link.In many years no one has.Many "professionals" will tell you different.They have all kinds of reasons no ones collected that million bucks.I don't believe any of them.Look into it you won't either.

  18. There are many ways to fake telekinesis through magic tricks. I have seen several magicians perform these tricks but have never witnessed real telekinesis. I would suggest that there is a very high probability that your friend is faking it and a very low probability that he is genuine. During the Cold War, a vast quantity of resources was spent on exploration of telekinesis and other psionic abilities by both sides. It is a testament to the futility of this line of research that both Governments abandoned the projects and cut the funding.

  19. wow

    I've witnessed teleportation and telekinesis

  20. Telekinesis is not real, and your friend is playing a prank on you. My brother bought a kit that included a floss that was strong enough to lift a pen in the air, but one strand was invisible in indoors lighting. It came as a big wad, and you peelled off a strand at a time for doing the trick. There was also a putty which was could not be seen that you would put on your finger and touch to the object you want to move with one end of the string. The illusion didnt work in bright sunlight, only indoors. It looked like a piece of thread in sunlight.

    See if your friend can the pen when it is completely sealed in a clear plastic container (maybe a water bottle with a top).

  21. If it were real, we would be in a very strange world of moving, flying objects.

    Many people have tried determinedly to move objects with no effect whatever,(except for hoaxers).

    The brain is not magical, it is simply tissue which generates very small electrical impulses due to chemical reactions.

    Try to tell me a small battery can move objects without being hooked to them and I will tell you to prove it.

    Don't let anyone mess with your head, this is a physical world, not a psychic one.

  22. I thought about it really hard, and moved my bowels one time

  23. You have so many answers to your question here, it hardly seems plausable to add mine.

    PK is real and even Russia experimented with it.  I don't know if you'll find that in the encyclopedia, but they in fact, did as well as the U.S. government.

    The truth about PK is, is that you have to; 1. believe in your head and your heart that it does exist and 2. have the uncanny ability to use the right and left hemispheres of the brain.  This is what your friend may be trying to induce in you.

    To get the two sides to work together, however, you need to accomplish a brain sync and you can purchase that program from many different web sites.  But, are you ready for that?

    If you do not think you are, then you could possibly hurt yourself trying.

    It's just like 'dream sharing' or 'distant viewing.'  To some people it just comes naturally, as is the case with myself.  But as far as forcing the issue I'll ask you this?  Is it really that important to you?  Because if and when you do have failures in making these objects move, how will this affect your psychie?  Will it make you depressed?  Will it possibly mess up your brain chemistry by 'force feeding' it into doing something that doesn't come naturally?

    If you really want to do these things, then let them come to you naturally.  I had tried this for several years and the best I could do was to make a candle flame flicker while I was across the room.  No, it wasn't when the fan turned on from the AC or heat.  The system was off because I didn't want to take chances.  However, in attempting to force myself, I ran into other issues later...like severe depression and it took me several years to snap out of it (on my own.  I would not consider a chemical antiadote)

    So, you can try the 'brain sync' method as this may help you somewhat.  But hypnosis?....Nah, he could be putting anything into your subconscious.

    Excuse any misspellings, but the spell check isn't working here.

  24. Yes, meditation proves it. Check out the following link...

  25. "i DONT believe in TK….it’s a bunch of bullshit and God is the only one who has the ability to perform things like that. Like they say “Science can go only so far, then there is God”. And if it’s not God, it’s the devil!"

  26. The inescapable fact so far is that telekinesis has never been demonstrated or observed. Many people have tried, and many people have claimed the ability, but all demonstrations have utterly failed.

    You bring up scientists, so let me say scientifically that an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence if it is to be considered. That's a qualitative statement, but it packs a wallop. What it means is that if you're going to overturn hundreds (even thousands) of years of science, your contrary evidence needs to trump the bulk sum of the existing evidence. That is no small feat.

    Or it can be expressed another way. If you're going to try to demonstrate something as far removed from natural science as telekinesis is, you're going to have to go to great  lengths to eliminate all sources of deception and illusion, and you're going to have  replicate experiments and use valid statistics to eliminate chance. It's not easy.. especially if the power doesn't exist in the first place! But that hasn't stopped some people from twisting experimental uncertainty into supposed "evidence"

    Specifically, there was a research group at Princeton for about 25 years which worked on PK. The group, after working so hard and so long, refused to consider that their work was wasted, but outside objective analysis showed that their work was indeed a flop. There are a number of fatal statistical flaws in their experimental analysis that can be easily identified (see link), and the fact that it is widely discredited is why this misadventure in science remains relatively obscure.

    So, no, as of yet there is no evidence for telekinesis, and as far as our scientific knowledge goes, there is absolutely nothing about the human brain that would give rise to such powers.

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