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Is Wiccanism the unofficial religion of feminists?

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It worships a "mother earth" and has very gynocentric language.

I notice that quite a few feminists on this board have profiles with wiccan babble.

Also, is wiccanism phallophobic?

Is wiccanism a reigion founded on fear of men?

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  1. There is no such thing as Wiccasnism it's Wicca or Paganism. I'm Wiccan and it doesn't worship mother earth. We believe in complete equality - our deities are male and female. It's probably one ofthe only religions that embraces male and female completely. We also believe that every one's spirit is dual.  

    No Wicca isn't phallophobic - films such as The Wicker man the original is a brilliant film, but isn't about wicca we don't worship the phallus.

    Wicca has nothing to do with fearing men. You really should do your homework before writing this - you obviously know absultely nothing about wicca or paganism, you can't even spell it correctly.

    EDIt: Mr Dev - unfortauntely wicca has become 'coll ' and 'popular' for goths and oither teenagers that think they are being individual.

    EDIT 2: The world is an amazing lpace - and everything has some kind of energy power, there are so many interesting questions. What is exactly life? I do believe in magick because it'a scientific fact that energy is transferred. The sun has energy which give the plants life, then the animal comes and eats the plants and uses that energy as calories, then we eat the animal and the energy is transferred to us. Believing in magick is similar, it's the transfer of energy to change something  in the same way we can eat and we sustain life or put on weight. Other energy forces like magnestism or gravity were thought to be witchcraft before scinece discovered them.

    EDIT 3: But the point of magick (with a k) is that we believe it  IS something tangible and real, not magic as in mysterious illusions. Like mind over matter. I have read in the news about a new type of video game machine in which you control the charcter and it's actions by using your brain waves to think it. This is a kind of mind of matter.

    last edit: No, the whole point of using the K is so that it ISN'T linked with magic, which is illusions, party tricks. We don't try and make it seem like some mysterious dark arts. I suggest you read Wicca for solitary practioners by Scott Cunningham before you judge anymore.

    it's so typical though. As someone who is Wiccan I'm saying that it's NOT about mysterious, dark arts to try and lure people in, yet someone who is no-wiccan is claiming that I am.


  2. No, I think atheism is probably the most common philosophy amongst feminists.

    No, wiccanism is pretty equal opportunity. There's both a god and a goddess.

    No, it's not founded on fear of men, it's founded on love of the earth and appreciation for the role of men in society.

  3. No.  I belong to the Religious Society of Friends, more commonly called Quakers.

    Before you get started, I've already heard all the oatmeal jokes.

  4. It makes sense, since feminists are incapable of reasoning.

    I don't know which is their unofficial religion, however stupidity is the official one for sure. How comes they can't realize the incoherences between feminist maxims and the search for equal rights? If they were really looking for equal rights, they would be equalists. Besides, feminism itself seems to be a kind of religious sect, otherwise feminists wouldn't be so narrowminded.

    Greetings.

  5. As much as I support women's rights I absolutely cannot understand the attractions of 'Wicca'. Every time I answer a question on this some smartypants tells me I am using the wrong term or that it is not this, or that.

    Some people seem to think there is something noble about replacing one nonsensical worldview for another with older origins and less prejudice, despite the fact that it is no more sensible than any other religion.

    A suspect that women are more susceptible to this plague-anism, but don't ask me why.

    Edit : That may be Princess, but my wife is a long-time 'Wiccan' and despite years of listening patiently to her and her fellow wiccans explanations, I can't see any sensible use of pretending that the earth has magic powers or that living in a forest is 'spiritual'.

    Edit : Thing 55001: so what if it based on the religious observances of the Celts. Did they know something we don't?  If so it's not communicated very well, and has no more weight behind it than Christianity or any other worldview based on speculation.

    Edit3 : Believing in magic is not the same as understanding energy transfer, because once you understand a mechanism you realisee that it isn't magic at all. It's wonderful, but not magic. People with a desire to mystify natural phenomena cloud scientific understanding.

    Last Edit : Come on now, is not that by writing 'magick' with a 'k', people think they are tapping into some ancient knowledge? Using brain function control over things like replacement limbs is not magic, it is further understanding how the mechanisms of the natural world function. There are no prizes for obfuscating this with talk of magic. At least there shouldn't be.

    To be fair I don't care whether people believe in paganism or not, that's up to them, but denying that it's done out of an unexplained need to have something to fill the belief hole is ridiculous. No-one offers anything of substance to show what 'Wicca/paganism' is, instead there are just a lot of insubstantial wrangles over terminology. And that's really what it is, because unless you willing to jump to unreasonable conclusions or try and find 'Gaia' type patterns in the world, there's little there to see.

    Thanks for all the TDs, nice to see the best solution is the TD rather than reasons or arguments.

  6. No.

    Feminists are of any religion, or even NO religion. Why people assume that peoplw who consider women to be human are identical to each other in every other way is a mystery to me.

    BTW, there are plenty of males into Wiccanism. It is true that part fo the interest in Wiccanism (if that's even a word) is due to the misogyny of many of the alternatives.

    Most Wiccans I've known are far from phallophobic.

    No, Wiccanism wasn't founded on fear of men; though rejection of the idea of worshipping ONLY the male (and despising the female) has motivated many to embrace it.

    BTW, I'm an atheist. Living in a fairly Wiccan-populous area, I'm somewhat familiar with the concept.

  7. Clearly, you've never read anything about Wicca or other neo-pagan religions.

    But then...from most of your posts, you do have a tendency to whine first and ask begging questions later.

  8. Wicca is an ancient Celtic religion. I am not into Wicca. I am not into whirling around in the forest praying to the tree god to make me happy. I'm a deist.

  9. I'm into utilitarianism and I'm a feminist. Never been into organized religion.

  10. Modern day Wicca is  based on traditional principles of worship which predate the Abrahamic religion by many centuries and which is based on the religious observances of the ancient Celts.

    It is a religion in which the feminine principle is equally recognised with the male.

    Not being a religious person myself, I'm not going to pretend to understand the spiritual significance of Wiccan beliefs, but I do know there are many Wiccan men.

    Hopefully, you'll have the chance to explain your theories to a group of them one day.

    Cheers :-)

  11. No I am wiccan but I am not a feminist. Pagans believe in equality not superiority. So I fail to see the similarities.

  12. Wiccanism isn't a word. I am a Christian and a feminist. A couple of people in this section on Y!A does not create an accurate data pool in order to determine the religion of most feminists.

  13. Not at all.

    Wicca is not about fear of men...but of honoring the Divine Feminine.

    There are some Wiccans who are feminists such as Zsuzana Budapest, but I know of a lot of Wiccans who are NOT secular feminists. In fact some of them are decidedly against it.  

    Wiccans for the most part believe in a Lord and Lady. For them,it's about dualities, balance, yin and yang, and having respect for the Earth and Nature and seasons.

    Wicca is not about fear of anything, but rather it's about perfect love and perfect trust. Two qualities that aren't always easy to acquire or sustain.

    As for phallophobic, that's definitely not so.  In fact, what the Wiccans refer to as the Great Act (sexuality) is considered one of the most sacred things a person can do. It's the closest thing to a sacrament for most Wiccans..and is highly encouraged.  If you are straight, it takes a woman and a man to do that. So now do you get it?

    Also, modern Wicca (post WWII) was actually brought to the mainstream by a British man, Gerald Gardener. So if someone is a woman who is truly anti-male would they had gone for such a religion knowing this? I doubt it.

    Blessed Be.

    EDIT

    You'll find there is so-called "gynocentric" language in other religions and situations, too. Both Catholics and Anglicans have a strong reverence for Mary, the Mother of Jesus.  Does that mean they fear men? Hardly.

  14. Not for me. I don't need a bunch of hokum to do my thinking for me.

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