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Is being experienced with being in the middle of a fight the right kind of experience? ?

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Please respond to that. I recently read an interesting perspective that asked for exactly what kind of experience McCain has besides fighting (including fighting in Congress, against the President, with the President, against the RNC, with the RNC, against conservatives--i.e. "agents of intolerance"), against conservations..and, of course, in every war he could climb (or get shot down) into.

Sooooo, McCainites, I see Obama running the tightest, saaviest, most modern compaign in electoral history. What's your guy done as either an organizer or, say, a leader IN A CRISIS?

Seems to me Bill Clinton had a point: no one really has exactly the right experience to be president. But Obama is proving, especially today as we wait for the VP announcement, that he can select, manage, inspire, organize and CONTROL people very well indeed.

Now THAT, IMO, is leadership!

How do YOU illustrate it (via McCain's acts/history)?

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  1. I'm really confused, is there another Obama running that I'm not aware of? He's outspending McCain 4-1 and still dropping in the polls. He's never bean the head of a company, or anything other then a non-profit, he was an unsucessful lawyer. I guess I'm not sure where you see this leadership in him?  


  2. The fact you admit Obama would try to Control people is exactly why he is beginning to fade. He has repeated the same rhetoric for months. The  reason he is nervous about his VP pick is because unless he picks Kaine every other person is more qualified to be the President. He looks silly standing next to Biden

  3. Who but Slick Willy would be able to spot another slick talker.

    Old draft dodger Bill....profiles in courage and service to his country.

    Obama gives answers to questions entirely crafted for the political response.  No guts.  That shows what he's made of.

    "Present-but no vote" Obama...another "profiles in courage story of politics"  

    McCain - He's committed.  At least you know where he stands.

  4. I would certainly think so if you are already in the middle of a fight.

  5. In 1976 he became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida. He turned around an undistinguished unit and won the squadron its first Meritorious Unit Commendation.

    He served as the Navy's liaison to the U.S. Senate beginning in 1977.

    In early 1981, he was reportedly told that he would be promoted to rear admiral but declined the prospect, as he had already made plans to run for Congress.

    His 17 military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Navy Commendation Medal, for actions before, during, and after his time as a POW.

    He became a member of the Armed Services Committee, with which he had formerly done his Navy liaison work.

    He also joined the Commerce Committee and the Indian Affairs Committee. McCain continued to support the Native American agenda. As first a House member and then a senator, McCain was one of the main authors of the 1988 Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, which codified rules regarding Native American gambling enterprises and established a balance between tribal sovereignty and state regulatory oversight over such enterprises.

    He was also a strong supporter of the Gramm-Rudman legislation that enforced automatic spending cuts in the case of budget deficits.

    He developed a reputation for independence, during the 1990s. He took pride in battling establishment forces, was willing to challenge party leadership, and became hard to categorize politically.

    As a member of the 1991–1993 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, chaired by Democrat and fellow Vietnam War veteran John Kerry, McCain investigated the fate of U.S. service personnel listed as missing in action during the Vietnam War. The committee's unanimous report stated there was "no compelling evidence that proves that any American remains alive in captivity in Southeast Asia." Helped by McCain's efforts, in 1995 the U.S. normalized diplomatic relations with Vietnam.

    Since January 1993, McCain has been Chairman of the International Republican Institute, an organization partly funded by the U.S. Government that supports the emergence of political democracy worldwide.

    In 1997, McCain became chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee

    He began 2001 by breaking with the new George W. Bush administration on a number of matters, including HMO reform, climate change, and gun legislation.

    He and then-Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman wrote the legislation that created the 9/11 Commission.

    By November 2003, after a trip to Iraq, he was publicly questioning Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, saying that more U.S. troops were needed; the following year, McCain announced that he had lost confidence in Rumsfeld.

    In May 2005, McCain led the so-called "Gang of 14" in the Senate, which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in "extraordinary circumstances".

    He was twice chairman of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, in 1995–1997 and 2005–2007, and his Committee helped expose the Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal. By 2005 and 2006, McCain was pushing for amendments to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act that would limit creation of off-reservation casinos, as well as limiting the movement of tribes across state lines to build casinos.

    In October 2005, McCain introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill for 2005, and the Senate voted 90–9 to support the amendment. It prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, by confining military interrogations to the techniques in the U.S. Army Field Manual on Interrogation. Although Bush had threatened to veto the bill if McCain's amendment was included, the President announced in December 2005 that he accepted McCain's terms and would "make it clear to the world that this government does not torture and that we adhere to the international convention of torture, whether it be here at home or abroad". This stance, among others, led to McCain being named by Time magazine in 2006 as one of America's 10 Best Senators.

    McCain continued questioning the progress of the war in Iraq. In September 2005, he remarked upon Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers' optimistic outlook on the war's progress: "Things have not gone as well as we had planned or expected, nor as we were told by you, General Myers." In August 2006, he criticized the administration for continually understating the effectiveness of the insurgency: "We [have] not told the American people how tough and difficult this could be."

  6. McCain has 25 years experience with being part of the problem in Congress, and 8 years experience being a bush footlocker. That is what Republicans want to continue.

    Make them look pretty insincere when they cry about wanting to kick all of congress out and start from scratch don't it?.

  7. So basically what you present is the best advertiser should be president.  Heck if that were the case we would have elected Ronald McDonald.



  8. Even Dems know Obama's a joke.

    Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

    Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”

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