Is blaming global warming on "carbon" an ingenious scam because everything is carbon based?

Question

And therefore everything can be taxed? Indiviuals, children, pets, etc? Even man-made objects because most are made using carbon-based petroleum these days (like plastic)? Everything you own and do--including you--can be taxed and penalized and restricted!

It's not really about protecting the environment because you can continue to pollute if you can afford to purchase "offsets!" I don't understand how planting trees will help people breathe in fewer toxins like carbon monoxide, mercury, aluminum, etc.; but I guess it's not about protecting people it's about restricting their freedom and reallocating resources and wealth.

Answer 1

Turn on your car in a sealed up garage. If you dont start to understand why your dying, then your too dumb to live.

Note: I was using the car as an example, and it was actually a pretty d**n good one.... So you are the type who thinks 20 lbs of c**p can fit in a 5 lb bag? Its math, its science, and it seems like most of the commentors care more about politics(by slander), than wanting to understand. What would it take for you fools to change your mind? Does Shaun Hannity need to approve before you do? Even Bush just said he hopes to have a climate treaty before he leaves office. Your commander in general has accepted finally, and you guys are still listening to Rush? Isnt he a drug addict?

Answer 2

Environmental alarmists have been predicting fossil fuels will cause catastrophic environmental damage for the last few hundred years.  They've been blamed for causing all kinds of things - global warming is just the latest extension of that idea.  

green4dj - do me a favour and actually try that experiment before you claim it works.

Do me another favour - stop believing in AGW like a religion if that experiment doesn't work.

Answer 3

Dumdum, you never cease to amaze me.

You are crying about an imaginary problem that you made up.  Taxes on adults, children, and pets for breathing are never going to happen!

I believe I have said to you before, if you are concerned with the government's reaction to AGW, do something about it.  Protest or contact your representatives.

The science is real, and you don't have a solid argument against it.  Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and is causing more concern than other pollutants because of the phenomenon of AGW.

Answer 4

Too much carbon in the atmosphere could cause problems, but we're nowhere close to contributing towards such an event.  If we burned all the fossil fuels on earth, we'd still be incapable of changing the climate.

The idea of taxing carbon is convenient, because by alarming people as to what 'could happen' is all that's needed to scare some of them into acting irrationally.  Many people don't have any scientific training, or what they have learned is wrong, so they accept the "carbon alarm" as valid.  

It's not at all about protecting the environment or reducing what can't be reduced in the atmosphere.  We can't reduce what we didn't contribute to.  It is really about unscrupulously furthering a corrupt leftist agenda, designed to control not only our freedom but the way we think as well.  It's dangerous as h**l, and the sooner people jump OFF the g/w bandwagon the better off we'll all be!

Answer 5

There is no need for "blame" because it is myth that global warming is caused by human activity.

"Global warming" is a scam, with a few motives,

1. Money.  A killing is being made, even by Al Gore, "Mr. Global Warming" himself.

2.  Unite the people of the world in a way that will induce them to accept global government.

And if the globalists have their way, we will fund the global government with carbon tax!!!  How dumb are we?

Wake up people!  Learn how elite global interests buy the science they need to fulfill their goals.  Learn what the corporate-controlled main stream media is all about.

Answer 6

Very perceptive of you-------- carbon credits are just a new secondary monetary exchange system. Lots of folks will make lots of money implementing it.

Answer 7

well, its being taxed so that people reduce it... whether or not that's a good way or not is debatable. i would love it if we don't tax carbon and rely on people's "will to do good in the world" to reduce the carbon impact... but it doesn't work that way, does it?

you have an answer in your question itself! everything we own and do, in some way, has a direct connection to carbon emissions. multiply that with the world's population and you'll get it. that's way too much carbon for the earth (as compared to what would be in the natural cycles)... and to regularise it, she will just make a few climatic changes (a few hurricanes and floods here and there). the reason there's such a hue and cry about it is that we aren't capable of handling those changes.

also, about purchasing offsets, i won't vote for it one bit. if we're reducing carbon, we do it fully, not half hearted like this.

anyway, if the question has roots in "whether or not to believe if global warming is true" or "if humans are really doing it" or "do we really have to change" or "is it really carbon" , i recommend some videos. start with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcC...

also, i'd like to hear an alternative solution, if you have one, to the carbon problem. (provided that you are convinced it is a real problem). i'm working on the issue and would like to know different points of view.

Answer 8

Like most GW skeptics, you show a poor grasp of the science or even what the issues are. This allows you to pick up one word here and there from a complex issue and completely distort it. Let's take a look:

1 - You are obviously referring to "carbon taxes" and "carbon offsets". These are clear in referring to CO2 emissions - no one has ever suggested taxing carbon itself.

2 - Not "everything is carbon based"! You yourself mention mercury and aluminium - these have no carbon.

3 - The environment is a complex and varied system. To protect the environment requires a number of different activities; carbon offsets are just one initiative that is designed to minimise or even neutralise the impact of CO@ emission in one place by increasing CO2 uptake in another hence it does "protect the environment".

4 - Planting trees are not meant to do anything about mercury (etc) pollution - we need a different activity for that particular problem.

When we talk about personal hygience, we usually talk about a number of different activities - brushing teeth, having a shower, cutting nails, etc. A planet is bigger and more complex than a human being; the hygiene of a planet will also require many different activities to keep it healthy.

Answer 9

Plants breathe in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen.   Thats why to plant trees.  If it were not for the plant life, we would not exist because we breathe in oxygen.     They are big filters that take out harmfuls like carbon monoxide.            

  The ingenious scam is: that they are blaming joe public....Joe public didn't build the cars or the factories that make various products. ....but Joe is getting blamed for using them.   And we are stupid enough to accept the blame....for the inventions that got made such as DDT, mercury based products, asbestos based products, other things that require large amounts of energy to produce and are thrown away after 1 time use.      The government should be going after the factories and the inventors that made the money to fix it. w/o charge.   So long as we are still alive, we still have a chance to fix it.      No different than a non-swimmer being tossed in the middle of a lake...... he is determined to swim to shore somehow because he wants to live{never will they ever just throw up their hands and say I can't do it}  THEY ARE GONNA TRY.

Answer 10

Mickael C. ---that is Carbon monoxide in a car you idiot (i think i went to high school with you last year? mickael crow?-the know it all communist!

Liberals always talk about big brother taking away our freedom by using rhetoric of terrorism and war and stuff

but they do the same thing with the green movement-its always saying the "planet is doomed if we do not buy a prius that gets 15 more miles to the gallon then i have now."  or if we drill in Alaska it will disrupt the caribou migration or polar bars might even drown.

Answer 11

Perhaps, but people (educated people that is) aren't blaming global warming on "carbon".  Global warming is caused by the Greenhouse Gas effect.  There are a number of greenhouse gasses, one of the most damaging being Carbon Dioxide.  There's a huuuuuuuge difference between Carbon and carbon dioxide.  Yes, you're right though, plastic is made from Oil, therefore, it is something that's going to have to be dealt with.  But Oil, like all fossil fuels are non-renewable.

Also, Industrial society is driven by fossil fuels.  Without them we wouldn't be where we are today.  Before fossil fuels we were burning wood.

Planting Trees would help because Trees convert CO2 back into O2.  More important is that the Tropical rain forests be preserved.  The tropics are a cradle of life and are home to well over 90% of the earths species.  Many people dont realize that most of our modern medicine is plant derived.  Tree's and vegitation, of course, serve other functions  that keep the environment healthy and stable.

Saving the environment goes hand in hand with saving people, seeing as how a drastic raise in temperatures would virtually wipe out much of earth's farmland.

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Likely, you know all this already.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say about Global warming...

It's a scam... Who's scaming who?  It's been the academic/scientific community who's been most outspoken about Global Warming.  You speak about higher taxes... Is this a liberal scam?  Corporate scam?  Right wing?

Corporations and Government are by far the biggest polluters.  Municipal waste is a mere fraction of the total.  The environment has been largely destroyed, and such destruction has amounted to millions of dollars of damages.  Who's going to pay?  For years the goverment has subsidized the energy companies and have subsidized development.  Essentially, big business has not only been poluting the environment without being held fiscally responsible for the damage they've done, but worse, they've done so at discounted prices because the government helps then do their business.

Answer 12

Where do I begin... Wait a minute I cannot begin at all since I must surely have died during the last scientific consensus crisis....The Coming Ice Age!!!! Are you kidding me with all this nonsense, the local weather forecast for the next several days on the news each night is at best an educated guess. It's wrong as often as it is right. If they cannot get that right, how can anyone fall for the long term doom and gloom predictions?

Al Gore, are you kidding me? Could there be a bigger hypocrite on the planet? If he actually believed this stuff he would be living his life the way he is telling everyone else they should be living theirs. Don't fly around in private jets, live in giant houses which consume ten times more energy than the typical household, drive a huge suv caravan to the appearance you have scheduled which will consume massive amounts of energy to put on and draw large crowds of people who have to drive to get to it in the first place.....do I need to go on?..... all the while telling me I need a smaller carbon footprint! Give me a break. Carbon tax, really?? How does this help, it will cost companies millions of dollars ( which will be passed on to the consumer ie: YOU & I ) while not actually reducing the amount of carbon in the air one bit. If i want to keep the trash out of my pond would it really help if I said you could still throw your trash in but it would cost you $10 to do it, and it was still cheaper to pay the $10 than it would be to dispose of it elsewhere? I would have more money but would the pond be any cleaner? Carbon tax, carbon offset credit, yadda, yadda, yadda. Can we say Global extortion?

Global warming huh? Let's see...

The global temp has not risen since 1998.

There has been unprecedented growth of the ice shelf in the past year.

The latest more accurate temperature sensors in the ocean show no increase in the temp of the global currents.

Temp goes up in response to the increase in co2 emissions? Look at the actual charts as they are and not as Al Gore showed them and you will see the temperature goes up first and the co2 in response to that.

co2 is bad? look at the stats for global plant density and you will see plants thrive when co2 goes up and as we all know when plants take in co2 what is the result? Thats right oxygen!!! There were actually times when the co2 levels were too low and plant life globally diminished significantly. Just think if the global warming pinheads get there way we wont have to worry about co2 OR all those pesky plants growing everywhere

. You know the ones we eat, make medicine from, feed the animals with etc...

Sorry everyone if I sound like I am ranting, I am. This is all the silliest thing I have ever heard. Are we really that arrogant to think we have that much influence on things? Or even if we did, that we would be able to fix it anyway. When has a government program of any kind ever made anything better?

Should we be better stewards of the earth? Yes, Should we do things cleaner if we can, yes. Is it time to look for other forms of energy? Past time for many reasons, but is it come global crisis? No.... take a breath and relax, the earth was not an accident, and was designed very well ( oh my i said designed, not formed from some random explosion, sshhhh I must think God knew what he was doing...)

If you really want to know what the people involved in this stuff, or in anything for that matter, believe or what the agenda, look at the end result of any policies or programs and see if they actually improve the perceived problem, or simply transfer money, power, or control from one person or group of people to another. Follow the money long enough it will lead you to the truth every time.....

Answer 13

there you have ur answers.

regardless of whatever it is ... this human "people" would never realize until something really bad happened ... then they'll realize and try to understand restricting their own freedom ... just to make a better place ... however is too much polluted already man ... can't do anything about it ... at the end ... you gotta be friends with nature.

Answer 14

A simple experiment to prove CO2 traps more heat is to take some baking powder, two jars with a little water in each and a little baking powder and vinegar in one not to much just alittle and just vinegar to the other seal the lids and leave in the sun with a thermometer in each come back in an hour and notice the temp. difference in the two. its proven science.

Answer 15

Pretty much, yes. You are absolutely correct.