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Is cleaning with Vinegar as good as cleaning with Bleach?

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Because with Bleach it whitens the moldy tiles in my bathroom and kills the germs at the same time but I heard that it's bad for the water supply. With Vinegar I heard it doesn't always kill all the mold.

What do you think?

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  2. Bleach is very effective while vinegar is a joke.

    Chlorine products definitely produce trihalomethanes which are mild carcinogens.

    Oxygen-based cleaners are a good substitute.  They don't come close to the germ killing power of chlorine, but they do a good enough job with no harmful endproducts.

    Oxyclean or concentrated hydrogen peroxide are great subs for bleach.  They whiten and brighten as well as bleach does.

  3. Bleach in the volumes you're using in the bathroom can't be *that* horribly bad for the water. . . what do you think they disinfected the stuff you're drinking with?  (That does have its issues as mentioned above, yes, but I'll spare you the details of my research and dissertation on that topic.)

    Should you go dumping the whole container out on the ground outside?  No.  Are you really contributing much bleach to the natural environment by using it to clean your bathroom?  Nope.  What goes down the drain in your tub still gets treated before it's released, anyhow.

    Vinegar = dilute acetic acid.  It's not going to kill much other than the easy stuff that freaks out with a momentary drop in pH.  It cleans by dissolving hard water deposits, but that's all it really takes care of.  Chlorine (found in bleach), on the other hand, is acutely toxic to the stuff growing on the tiles. . . and it's probably not great for you, either, if you decided you wanted to drink it.  

    If you are really anti-bleach, I'd go for something more like hydrogen peroxide.  The chemical breaks in half when light hits it and generates radicals that might also kill your mold and whatnot.  That at least is well-known to have disinfecting properties, unlike vinegar.

  4. You are correct.  Vinegar is much better for the environment than bleach is, but doesn't necessarily kill everything.  Chlorine bleach kills most things in its path, including organisms it comes in contact with after leaving your home.  That is why it's considered bad for the water supply--there are loads of "good" bacteria that it could be killing off.

    On a side note, it's also a bad idea to use "antibacterial" cleaners of any kind.  They use small amounts of drugs to kill bacteria, but some strains are able to mutate, developing resistance to the drug.  These drugs go down our drains and into the water supply, then we end up with multi-drug-resistant bacteria in the environment.  Moral of the story:  Be careful of what you put down the pipes!

  5. Vinegar is good to make things shiny.  Bleach leaves a dull look on the surface, but it kills germs.  

    And I don't like the smell of vinegar.

  6. Use the bleach to kill the mold, and use vinegar in a spray bottle to keep it from coming back.

    The change in the pH will inhibit the return growth.  Vinegar doesn't actually kill bacteria.  

    As has been mentioned, the water out of your tap, unless you are on a private deep well, has already been treated with chlorine.  The only time chlorine would be in any way harmful to the environment would be using sodium hypochlorite (bleach) in concentrations greater than 20%.  Any bleach you buy at the store will be 5% or less.  Even commercial (industrial) disinfectants that contain bleach are normally only 10% at most.  

    Again, as long as you are not pouring thousands of gallons at a time down your drain or even several gallons a day, you will be fine.  

    And remember, NEVER use any product containing bleach with any product that contains ammonia or urea.  Ammonium chloride gas can kill you.

  7. no

  8. Absolutely if used correctly. Always use a cup of white vinegar or distilled vinegar into your wash cycle (large load) for your whites but the real secret is using cold water, because hot water sets the stain and the cold water won't. There are some stains it doesn't matter what you use, it may take a little extra work to remove with pre wash sprays or bleach pens but for a crisper, whiter wash the vinegar wash is great.

  9. No!  Vinegar does not kill germs!!  It is good for getting rid of odors and some stains, but as far as bacteria it's useless.

    They clean our water supply with chlorine... your bleach is the least of our worries.

  10. use Baking Soda.  100% natural, cheap and environmental friendly.  You'll never die from breathing in baking soda fumes - because there is none!

  11. I use vinegar. i used to use bleach but it made my floors really slippery.

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