Is feminism simply a tax on men?

Question

I've been doing a survey. I've been watching couples (all are without children, and under 40) to see who pays the bill in restaurants over the last two years.

Although the waiter always puts the check inbetween the couple, my observation is that the man pays about 95% of the time.

This had led me to the conclusion that feminism is merely a tax on men, but well disguised by use of the words like equality and fairness.

Answer 1

feminism is the doctrine advocating social and political rights for women equal to those of men.  one hundred years ago (1908) women in the U.S. could not vote. they generally did not hold professional jobs (women always did menial jobs). they were denied admission into most colleges. women who divorced usually lost their jobs to husbands who wanted custody of children. it was fairly easy for a husband to have his wife committed without her consent.

as late as the 1970s (and 1980s if you ask Anita Hill) women in workplaces both professional and blue collar had to submit to sexual harassment by men; unwanted touching, lewd comments, etc. these women were usually punished or fired for complaining.

even during the 1960's peace and racial justice movements, women were expected to make coffee and clean offices while the men made speeches and held protests.

I don't know how old you are. maybe you don't remember when everyone assumed that women wanted to go to college to meet a husband. everyone assumed that a woman wanted kids and wanted to stay home and cook and clean. and if that wasn't what you wanted you were unnatural and wrong and needed help. maybe you were never told you couldn't do something because you were a girl.

but women still make less money than men for doing the same jobs. women still do the majority of care-giving in our society.

feminism is the belief that women are people who are equal in their capabilities to men and that while a woman's perspective is not any better than a man's, it is no less valuable.

as far as who pays for dinner, I think dating couples should take turns. men don't deserve to be forced into overly rigid roles any more than women do.

Answer 2

For the first 17 years of marriage I always paid the check, the last two years my wife has paid the check.

Answer 3

So who paid for groceries?  Mortgage? Rent? Utilities? Personal care products? Gas? Family gifts? etc.?

A dinner?  Please.  This is just one of many things people pay for.  You must still live at home or you would have realized this and factored it into your little experiment.

Answer 4

Have you ever thought about the fact that most couples have joint finances?

I know thinking is a stretch for you, but do try.

The fact that the whinge-fest by the usual suspects has begun without that thought occurring to them makes me laugh. That's the "GWS male troll logic" at work.

Answer 5

That pretty much sums it up.

"Who pays the bill for food gas rent" I have a pretty good idea who pays it.

Answer 6

Did you stop the couples and ask...if they have a joint account?

Lot of the times when I go out to a fancy place I dont bring my wallet with me...(no pockets in dress's)

So my hubby "pays" the bill, however he uses the check card from a joint checking about were my paycheck go to.

So who please tell me ...who picks up the tab?

The clashing for men is this...you have some feminist types, who are demanding to make there own way in this world...and you have gold digger types, such as yourself, who cant lift a finger.

Answer 7

Those probably weren't feminists because they don't believe in the man paying and because men aren't normally willing to go out with a feminist.

Answer 8

When my husband and I go out to eat, he usually pays the bill because I don't always bring my purse.  I'm the one who pay for groceries and pretty much everything else.

Answer 9

Now explain how you found a correlation between the man paying and feminism. Feminists are more likely than anyone to want to split the bill or take turns. I always split.

Answer 10

Interesting question

Feminist fight for many "female only" laws, group, organization etc..etc.. as a result many of men's tax dollars are going into those things.  For example, million of tax dollars are being use to fund sexist law like the VAWA and domestic violence shelters and services that assist only women.

Answer 11

Uh, what leads you to conclude that has anything to do with feminism? How do you know either th viws on feminism OR all of th rest of how each couple deals with thir mony? (If it's from a card on a joint account, thn it's BOTH who are paying, right?)

Feminism isn't a "tax on men" it's simply th notion that women ar HUMAN BEings, not som lesser species. If you hate being considered fully human, you could mov to any of dozens of countries where you'd NOT be considered human. You'd LOVE it!

Answer 12

My husband and I have a joint account.  The majority of our money is my earnings, but usually when we dine out he uses his card because I hate to carry a purse.

I think you're jumping to conclusions.

Answer 13

Paying the dinner bill (and most of the bills) is just expected of the guy in 90% of cases.

Put it like this. You will be much more likely tofind a man taking on a lion's share of the bills than you will a woman. How many women are going to be with a guy they have to take care of? Not many, and those who do are looked at as ill-used.

All that being said, an ugly guy has a million times more of a chance with a hot woman than an ugly woman does with a handsome guy.