Is feminism willing to sacrifice the majority for the minority?

Question

I read somewhere that NOW wants to force all women to sign up for the draft.

I may not be of popular opinion here, but I firmly believe that men are physically and mentally more capable of handling combat situations then MOST women. I know there are some women ( a minority of women) who can handle combat. How does it make sense to sacrifice a majority of women just to prove that a minority of women can do the job?

Most of the men I know would rather go to combat than have their wives, sisters, daughters go. Why you ask? Not because they think we're better or worse in general. They just know that, realistically, the majority of men are better suited for combat than a majority of women.

Since when is sacrificing the Majority for the sake of a Minority viewed as an altruist cause?

Please enlighten me.

To me it's like saying " Well, there is a small percentage of 11 year old children who can safely operate a motor vehicle. So in the best interest of the minority of 11 year old children who can drive, we'll make it so that ALL 11 year old children can get a drivers license."

Do you know what would happen if we did this? We'd have a bunch of dead 11 year old childrens (and others) blood on our hands.

Really, please explain.

Answer 1

I cannot imagine NOW ever suggesting that women should register for the draft

Answer 2

Lol, it's interesting how you compare female soldiers to 11 year old children.  The fact is, women are already on the front line, and if they weren't doing fine, then they'd be dead or demoted.  I think it is sexist to say that male bodies are expendable but female ones arent.  I believe some women are well suited for battle, and some men are not.  Why we should force unwilling men to take the place of willing women is beyond me.  Of course, many women would not meet the physical requirements of the draft, so it would only represent a minority of women affected anyway.  Plus, I don't see how we can claim equal rights if we are not willing to make equal sacrafices.  However, I believe only one parent from each family should be conscripted, and if it is true what you say, that most men would prefer to go rather than their partners, then most of those conscripted would be men anyway.  So why not?  :-)

Answer 3

You realize, of course, that not everyone who gets drafted ever gets to see combat. And that the draft hasn't been required since Nam. This is just getting some bureaucratic c**p out of the way so the people who say "Women don't have to register for the draft . . . SEXISM?!" will shut up.

EDIT: No, it's because it's the fair thing to do. Requiring only men to sign up carries the assumption that men are infallibly suited for combat and women are infallibly not. We'd all like it better if there was no draft for anyone, but that's not going to change any time soon.

EDIT: OK, then, let's try some logic. Except for matters of pregnancy, which is absolute, laws are never made on the basis of overall biological differences, where there is some overlap. Recruitment decisions are made on this basis. The weak don't make the cut. That includes men.

EDIT: Yeah. Because all feminists care about is equal outcome with no regard to ability, experience, or interest. Uproarious. (And to anyone who takes this comment seriously, obviously you can't recognize sarcasm when it's smacking you upside the head.)

Answer 4

How come combat is the only thing women admit that men are more capable at it ? Is NOW active in other countries as well ? Cus America does not have no draft.

Answer 5

Please do not confuse registering with Selective Service  with "the draft."

Selective Service is a screening tool to identify those young adults in a specific age range who would be qualified to be drafted,  if by an act of Congress, the draft was reinstated.

The argument here is that we now have women voluntarily serving in the armed forces at every level - they have demonstrated that women can perform the duties of a soldier adequately - and therefore, if we are ever in a situation where a draft becomes necessary, there is no reason to exclude women from the pool of candidates.

I am personally opposed to the Selective Service registration for both men and women.  I believe that people who wish to enlist and serve in the armed forces will do a fine job,  but people who are involuntarily drafted into service will be poor performers in the field.  

Edit@Chevalier:  Do you personally know people serving on active duty, or are you re-iterating rhetorical statements you have heard about town?

I live near a military base.  I've  met women serving on active duty, and believe me, they are in better physical condition than the average man holding a desk job stateside.  

I don't see how adjusting the standards has in any way compromised the efficacy of a unit.  They are still getting the job done.  

And I stand by my statement that volunteer soldiers will always perform better than draftees.  If you were in combat, who would you want  beside you - a woman who has a passion for miltary service, or a man who would rather be back home safe at his job selling cell phone plans?

Answer 6

I would like to see entire regiments of feminists outfitted and sent into combat zones.

And I bet they would change their tune on a lot of issues if thet ever happened.

I know they wouldn't think that men have been keeping the militery as an all boys club for very long after that.

Elf#3 they have not shown that women can do the same as men what they have shown is that if you lower the standars for a group you can make it look like they are doing the same thing.

Answer 7

Sigh....you know getting women into the Draft is an important step for female rights in the military. About 30% of the military right now is female, yet there rights and positions are limited.

If there was a draft, it would work similar to all the other drafts. They would call "names" or bdays, person would be required to show up for testing. to start separating out the women and men who can and cant perform to military standards.  Did you know only 40% of the men called for the draft for Vietnam went into the service. Most were dropped, for failing mental or physical standards.  If a person isn't capable they arnt going to force them in, it's dangerous to other people.

Did you know the US is one of the few developed countries that women dont fight in combat? Are sisters overseas can do it.  Women in the past have fought.

Your mistaking your own weakness for all females, a illogical thought confusing yourself for all. We are not all weak.  

Answer 8

Lexie - Our first concern is that there be no draft at all, no matter who has to register.  

From talking with soldiers there are several things I can tell you.

1.  They do not want a draft, they prefer the volunteer service, which does include many females.

2.  Because of the technilogical advances, the way wars are fought are very different today.  

3.  If you believe that women in the field today are not in combat, then you have bought a lie.  

4.  Women are good soldiers.

That is from the soldiers fighting for us now...not some long outdated organization that represents radical feminism and not the feminism the majority of us support.

Answer 9

You're assuming all men who are eligible for the draft were accepted into the military and therefore all women would be accepted as well. Not all women would be drafted, anymore than all men are drafted during a war, so comparing women to 11 year olds is not a valid argument. Men have to meet certain criteria to be drafted, so of course women would have to meet the same criteria. If women meet the same criteria that men do, why shouldn't they do whatever they can to protect their country? I don't value women more than men. I don't see why men deserve to die in a war more than women, just because of their gender.

Your argument is poor-all women wouldn't be drafted and killed, anymore than all men have been drafted and killed. But if you think the majority of women need to be protected by men, I hope you're not one of the women drafted. You don't sound like you think much of women-I wouldn't want you representing women in the military.

Answer 10

You're exactly correct in your assertion.  Feminism is entirely predicated on the notion that, "we're right; everyone else is wrong."

Along those lines, hatred of men is a vital part of Feminism (as is hatred of most reasonable instituations, e.g. babies, pregnancy, etc.)

Feminism pre-supposes that the ill philosophy of its group is, indeed, the Final Solution to the existence of men.  Inasmuch, failing to accept that this is the correct philosophy represents an affront to Feminism.

Feminism is about taking its sickening views and advancing them at the expense of normal women and men.

It's a quasi-fascism/communism with a twist.

Answer 11

Oh, yeah.  As long as they get their way, they absolutely will sacrifice  other women's interests.