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Is feminization of the American male the root cause of lesbianism in America?

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Then why isn't there any historical evidence that lesbianism existed before the 20th century and the enlightenment movement? Even Sappho the ancient Greek poet who is often linked to lesbianism was actually a straight woman who killed herself over a man. There is virtually no evidence of female homosexuality. It's a modern phenomon.

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  1. Dude, I am bi -only- because I am attracted to feminine men. If there were no 'feminized' males I would have no interest in men whatsoever.

    So, uh, no. Also, err, actually read Sappho's poetry sometimes? It is very explicitly directed at women. Also, check out an actual book that documents the history of lesbianism, please?  


  2. Women don't become lesbians in a response to their society, people are BORN g*y.

  3. There were lesbians long before men were feminine.  I suggest you do your research.

  4. I don't understand this question.  What do lesbians have to do with heterosexual male ego fragility problems?

  5. Lesbianism is genetic. The American male is not feminized. If the American male were feminized, lesbians wouldn't care less.

  6. Alot of women pass through a "L*****n" stage in there lives these days.

        But there are few 100% lesbians though.

  7. Lesbianism isn't exactly an epidemic, but I personally believe that if one is g*y/bisexual, then they were born that way. That being said, there are of COURSE going to be people who were born straight and decide for themselves that an alternative route is key.

    Lesbianism isn't exactly the aftermath of guys acting like...ehm...guys. I've noticed that a lot of high school girls act as though they're lesbians, but one has to think: They're probably not going to continue being lesbians well into their 30's. Some of it is a phase, and other times genetics is the culprit.

    Growing up, I had a lot of g*y/bi friends...and trust me, they didn't CHOOSE to be that way.

    I'm not sure why people are bent on THAT stupid idea...because choosing to live a life where most people don't understand you makes no sense to me.

    Regardless, my answer to your questions remains. NO. ;]  

  8. Read my answer to that question about women needing to be victims or something. This question isn't helping anyone

    edit: clearly it existed in ancient Greece, but it was largely glossed over by the male dominated historians of the time.

    Lesbos for a start...

    The historians had a vested interest in pretending it didn't exist since they viewed it as the most unnatural relationship in a phallocentric society like Greece and later in Rome

  9. What are you talking about? Nothing can make you a L*****n. Being g*y isn't a choice, people are born g*y or straight, or bi, or whatever they are. And of course there's evidence of lesbianism before the 20th century. And there's definitely evidence of male homosexuality before then. Why would there be male homosexuality and not lesbianism?

    In Greece and Rome hundreds of years ago, homosexuality was quite accepted. Even Caesar was bisexual.

    The reason there are not very many accounts of lesbianis is because of the rise of Christianity. Christianity has historically frowned on homosexuality, and it became less accepted as a result.

  10. considering that homosexuality has never been encouraged, accepted or out in the open until very recently, I'd venture to guess the lack of 'evidence' is purely because it was all kept underground.  as for feminization being the 'cause' of lesbianism - nah.  men are the "cause" of lesbianism.  some women decided they could do better.

  11. no. why would that be a cause of homosexuality, when it's existed in the human race and other species forever?  

  12. No, it's a result of the feminist movement.

  13. While perusing the varied YA categories, this one I came across -- this question, which I find sufficiently curious that I should join the commentaries.

    I should say, the evolution of people generally is better said healthfully so, a root cause of growth and balance in a world that heretofore the 20th Century was considerably misaligned.  Still is, but things are changing markedly so.  But your references are so limiting -- why so limiting?  I say, stretch out.  

    Go now farther back, way back into the antediluvian periods and then farther back again.  I mean here, amid the millions of years that men and women have moved about the earth, why do you so limit yourself to the time of Greece and Rome?  

    Humankind is most ancient and Nature has always been what it is, which is to say that Nature has its constancy, which in itself is phenomenal -- Nature it would appear is remove of the fitness of its own creation, which is time, and of which paradox human beings are wisest who take note.  

    But here, this is the point overlooked -- no where in Nature is there not form and function and expression of male, female, and the curious turns on a blending of the two or simply, flat-out neutrality.  This exists everywhere.  There is no space where this dynamic feature is not; and if anywhere, it is everywhere, even to the most sub-atomic particles, which is why it exists at the gross.  

    That such as this ubiquitous habit would be found puzzling, however, should come as no curiosity to those who are aware of the many or few periodically so steeped in varied historical accounting.  But -- we do like the weft and warp of debate, do we not?  But there truly is no needed dialectic one way or another, except only insofar as dialectics are no less a part of the selfsame creator and sustainer, Nature, to which is spoken here.  

    Virtually all forms, all functions of life share these features: positive, negative, and neutral.  And nothing can deprive Nature of this.  Not only does each quality personify in certain people, they do manifest in varying degrees virtually always; moreover, each human being, ay, each species shares all three of these qualities at once whether evident to the host itself or to some outside observer or not.  

    We all share these qualities, for if this were not the case, we would but implode and dissolve of our own atoms for dare violating Natural Law.  Proclivities of sexuality one way or another sometimes manifest at inception but as readily can ensue over the course of time.  Human beings and species generally, are malleable beings; survivors, fit!.  For these three qualities are the founding blocks on which all species stand and by which they persist.  And such is true even to that of inanimate things.  It is simply a law threaded into all life as one can know in this world and universe.  

    Such is an immutable law here: that is, for instance, the absence of light depends on light to be an absence of it, and there requires a fulcrum on which these two forces of Nature can exchange and thereby depend on each other.  And this is why a dialectic on the matter may be found interesting, yes, even most interesting, but no less is it moot.  For Nature will have its way; It will trip you and cannot be overridden except by that which exists above its compass.

    But human beings will have their practices, won't they?  That, too, is a virtue of Nature.  But what is most amazing herewith, is that anyone should be so attentive to what some woman or man -- homosexual or not -- does with her or his genitalia and the thoughts surrounding this in their respective quietudes of life and living.  

    Such should be of no account now or ten thousand years from now.  It all is Nature, all Life -- unbound, unrestricted; now active, now in repose.  That's all there is to it.  'Nothing fancy.

  14. "Then why isn't there any historical evidence that lesbianism existed before the 20th century and the enlightenment movement?"

    Yeah. Right. Your lack of knowledge about it does make it true, or a phenomenon. Read a biography about the life of England's Queen Anne, or England's Queen Mary (as in..."William and Mary.")

  15. Every vertibrate mammalian species has members who exhibit homosexual behavior, so your theory doesn't really pan out.  

  16. Actually, a French legal treatise from around 1260 describes the punishment for lesbianism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_livres_d...

  17. No.  Everything isn't about you.

  18. No, feminization of the American Male is NOT the root cause of lesbianism in America.

  19. No, "feminazation" of the American male, as in metro sexual or the like is caused by:1.) The United States having money.  Then you can afford to buy nice clothes and afford manicures and the like.2.) As we strive to find equality amoung the genders, we find traits being swaped; women doing things that were once considered masculine, and men doing things that are considered feminine.Why would men acting more like women, be a result from lesbianism? 

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    EDIT:  Ummm...yeah there is evidence of lesbians exsisting before the 20th century.  The reason we call them "Lesbians" is because the first female poets (who wrote about L*****n relationships) were from the island of lesbos.  This is around the time of ancient greece.  so yeah, plenty of records of g**s and lesbiens before the 20th century

  20. LOL! Your apparent lack of knowledge in this area doesn't reflect historical evidence that it existed way before the 20th Century.

    Sapho was bisexual. Scholars and historians have reached consensus on this. I'd love to see a reputable source that asserts  that she was straight. Or perhaps you heard she had married, and assumed she was therefore straight?

    L*****n relationships were also common among the Lacedaemonians of ancient Sparta. Plutarch wrote "love was so esteemed among them that girls also became the erotic objects of noble women.

    "Accounts of L*****n relationships are found in poetry and stories from ancient China. Research by anthropologist Liza Dalby, based mostly on erotic poems exchanged between women, has suggested L*****n relationships were commonplace and socially accepted in Japan during the Heian Period. In medieval Arabia there were reports of relations between harem residents, although these were sometimes suppressed. For example Caliph Musa al-Hadi ordered the beheading of two girls who were surprised during lovemaking. During the 12th Century, Etienne de Fougères derided lesbians in his Livre des manières (about CE 1170), likening them to hens behaving as roosters, and reflecting a general tendency among religious and secular authorities in Europe to reject any notion women could be properly sexual without men"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L*****n

    L*****n as an adjective appeared in the Oxford English Dictionary in 1890. That's waaaaaay before the feminist movement started.

    So I think we can safely say that no, lesbianism is not a modern phenomenon, and the feminization of the American male is probably more about enlightenment that the modern alpha male is in fact just a glitch, on the ladder of evolution.

  21. No. The result cause of LGBT individuals worldwide is their parents having s*x and becoming pregnant...

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