Is h**l real................?

Question

okay the second thing keeping me up thinking last night.....

I have always believed h**l is the end of all consciousness. The soul dies, and you cease to exist. h**l, in my opinion, is complete separation from God....

But, wouldnt we have to be conscious in order to know that we are separated?

Answer 1

It'll be h**l already if it is.

Answer 2

h**l is a place which, although He controls, God wouldn't interfere with it - It is Iblis or Satan's place.

And once you land up there, then forget about other places also created by God.

When you mentioned, h**l to be "complete separation from God", I fully agree with you ... h**l IS FOPR ALL EVIL-PEOPLE.

Answer 3

Mommy, you think wayyyyy too much!!! h**l is an imaginary place made up by men.

Answer 4

No.  h**l is a concept made up by people to scare people into following the religion.

Answer 5

Hi Mommy,

There are some who do think that h**l is the end of all conciousness, and others who are convinced it is eternal torment. Personally I'm not completely certain on what I understand the 'final' h**l to be. Let me explain why.

First let me explain my understanding of what happens after death:

Prior to Christ, all people who died went to Hades/Sheol which is literally the place of the dead. Those who trusted in God went to the side of Hades that is 'paradise' and those who didn't went to 'torment' awaiting judgement. This can be substantiated most from the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.

Since Christ, those who trust in him go straight to be with him in heaven and those who don't still go to torment in Hades awaiting judgement.

Hades is definitely finite as Revelation tells us that Hades gives up the dead in it before Hades itself is thrown into the Lake of Fire.

The problem then is this lake of fire or 'Gehenna' (I am convinced that Gehenna is synonymous with the Lake of Fire). Gehenna is referred to only in the words of Jesus and a letter to the Jews. In his writings to churches which do not have a Jewish background, Paul never uses the word 'Gehenna' but rather talks about 'eternal judgement' and 'fiery judgement'. Jesus warned that Gehenna was a place where souls could be destroyed and John describes such souls being cast into the Lake of Fire in Revelation. However this is where I am as yet unconvinced - the eternal nature of 'Gehenna' or 'The Lake of Fire'.

On the eternal argument we have:

'eternal judgement', 'fires which cannot be extinguished', 'tormented for eons and eons' and other such comments which indicate that h**l may indeed be eternal torture and punishment.

On the finite side we have:

'place where souls can be destroyed', 'fully consumed', 'destruction' and other such words which imply a finite and full termination of the soul.

Is the soul eternal? I personally think that all things are sustained by God and so are only as eternal or finite as God allows them to be.

Jesus describes a place of outer darkeness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. This surely indicates that Gehenna/Lake of Fire is at the very least not instantaneous in its destruction of souls as there could be no weeping and gnashing if it was. Also, as you say, a person would have to be conscious to understand they are separated from God.

Jesus and all the writers of the Bible believed in a real place called Hades. The references then to the infinite nature of punishment flow through from Old Testament to New and in the New Testament there is a clearer picture of something more than Hades, a place which results following the judgement of Christ.

Is heaven eternal - yes (in so much as it relates to our permanent joining to God and therefore infinitely full life).

Is h**l eternal - insofar as it relates to Hades - no. Insofar as it relates to the torment in the Lake of Fire, I'm not sure, but I am confident that any destruction of souls therein will not be instantaneous. What I am confident about is that irrespective of whether it is finite or infinite, I don't want to go there for even one second.

Answer 6

h**l is not real.  God is not real.  Consciousness is an illusory loop of symbolic logic in the brain.  When the brain stops, the loop stops.

Answer 7

h**l is only real in the minds of believers.

NOWHERE else.

Yes, you would have to be conscious in order, to realize it

Answer 8

yes it's real. it starts off with the sink dripping. then an overdraft charge on your bank statement. soon it develops into suspicions about your lover. or your family. then the car won't start, taxes go up, TV gets fuzzy and the toilet won't flush....ultimately you work your way up to fire and brimstone

Answer 9

h**l is as real as heaven and god(s)...

If you are talking about a town in Norway called h**l - that is a different story altogether....

Answer 10

why non-tomorrow " SUN RISE " is a nicety day !!

that is why i believe,

Chanting Lotus Sutra

Answer 11

Your spirit does not die.And h**l is real

And you are conscious.And there is no way back.

John 1 (Jesus is God)

The Word of Life

1In the beginning was the one

who is called the Word.

The Word was with God

and was truly God.

14The Word became

a human being

and lived here with us.

We saw his true glory,

the glory of the only Son

of the Father.

Jesus was born in a manger.His mother was Mary who was impregnated by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus was crucified on the cross for mankinds sins

If You want to be saved with all of your heart say

Jesus I am a sinner,I believe You died on the cross for my sins and You rose from the dead

Please forgive my sins Jesus

Come into my heart Jesus

Jesus I want Your love in my heart

Thank You Jesus

When I said those words with all of my heart I felt so much peace and love and Blessed Assurance(The Knowing in your heart that when you time is up in this realm you will live with Jesus in heaven forever and ever)

What a relief

Answer 12

h**l is not real, h**l is in the mind, or so i believe, and no, we take ourselves with us when we die, our thoughts, dreams, etc.

soul will live on in others, they remember you, so you are carried on in their hearts.

some can be separated conscious or unconscious.

so i would tend to think

Answer 13

As St. Padre Pio said to a man that asked this question, You'll believe it when you get there. God bless you.

Answer 14

Mark 12

26And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?

27He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

Mat 25:46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Rev 20

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and h**l delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14And death and h**l were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21

8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Mt 25:46 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Rev 14

9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Luke 16

22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in h**l he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Jude

5I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day

Answer 15

if there is a heaven then their is a h**l. or maybe this is h**l?