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Is illegal immigration really a moral and political problem rather than an economic one?

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"If you want to know why you can buy a chicken at the supermarket sometimes for as little as 99 cents a pound, it’s because the chicken industry employs thousands of illegal immigrants to process the millions of chickens on the assembly line. If you want to know why golf courses and large condo villages can maintain beautiful lawns and gorgeous flower displays, it’s because of cheap immigrant labor. So why are we so upset by this plethora of cheap labor to pick the lettuce, gather the fruits off the trees, maintain clean public toilets, make the beds in motels, wash the dishes in restaurants, and do many of the other bottom-end jobs that have to be done?"

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  1. I suppose it could be one of those if you don't have a legal system that is working or you don't ENFORCE your laws and order.

    I think the problem is mainly one of non inforcement. The decission was made to make people behaive in a certain way to immigrate legally. Good reasons were assumadely made in that determination.

    The fact that Americans who hire and illegals who wantonly break the law to come here and violate and harm us by those actions (regardless of the good they many do in some minds)can't be permitted without changing the laws.

    Laws must be change by appeal and challenge. That is what's more or less going on now.  It's pretty clear 80% or so American citizens don't want illegals here.

    The illegals need to be removed. If they want to live here, do it legally. It's`wrong to bring chidren here, They don't work and their presence compromises them into the future.


  2. That would be fine in all except they would like everyone to learn Spanish rather than speak English.

  3. Maybe you will become more concerned when you are struck by a drunk illegal driving a vehicle with no insurance. Maybe you will see how serious this issue is then. Yes? Car was totalled and NOTHING was done. People are being put in danger EVERYDAY by these individuals!!

  4. What you have said is true but there is a price we pay for these savings.  

    Any country that is at war with international terrorism should be concerned if 10s of millions of strangers routinely cross it's borders undetected and enter its cities.  Illegal immigration presents a terrible security risk.

    Any country that provides state supported services such as health care and education should be concerned if millions of low income people enter and begin using those services without contributing to the tax base.  Illegal immigrants increase the demand on tax supported services without increasing the tax base that supports those services.

    Any country with growing unemployment should be concerned if millions of unemployed people enter seeking jobs.  While it is true that many of the jobs taken by illegal immigrants are undesirable it is not true that no American is willing to do them.  Immigration is a boon if there are more jobs then available workers but if there are sufficient workers then all immigration does is drive down the price that workers can ask for their labor.  

    Whatever you are saving on the price of chicken you are paying back on taxes that are providing services that your own people have less and less access to.  

    Nothing in life is free.

  5. All the above.. ... it's the law

  6. it's all three.

  7. it's a complicated one, so it can be considered an economic one.

    They provide us with cheap labor, but then they suppress the wages in INDUSTRY X. It works for me, but I don't do such manual labor.

  8. Illegal immigration is an issue about obeying LAWS!!!!

    Illegals are causing MORE DAMAGE in the US than they are making things better!!

  9. Just complete BS. I've seen every one of your feeble arguments to justify illegal criminal aliens before and we aren't buying any of it.

    Save your fingers...don't bother with this drivel any more

  10. It's all of them. If illegals help prices so much then why is gas almost $5.00 a gallon? Why do I have to pay $6.00 for a pound of cherries?

    As for clean toilets,I've yet to see one where an illegal is cleaning it.

    Your argument is bogus Tony.

  11. Look I understand people need to pay consequences if they come over illegally BUT if the government can set up a plan where the good illegal immigrants that really want to be here, have no criminal record and have been good citizens, take English classes or at least speak good English, make them pay a fine and go the right route to getting their citizenship(especially like those in my husbands case and the ones who have families), then I think people would be more accepting. But since Americans are afraid of what they see in the media, and immigrants are not getting a chance to breath, then it will keep on happening.  Not all illegal immigrants are bad. Just like there are bad apples in the American society there are bad apples in the immigrant society.

    And we can't  categorize immigrants as drunk drivers, there are suburban teenagers and citizens that have killed plenty of people because they have made a bad decision!!!!

    Why aren't the unemployed Americans running to take those jobs gathering crops if they need the jobs so bad? There are plenty of jobs. There are companies having to shut down and are losing $$ because of this. I don't see other Americans reaching out to keep the economy alive. They are at home waiting for employment and IRS checks.

  12. Legal immigrants, teens and many other low skilled Americans will do the same jobs illegals do. Illegal immigration is a problem  any way you look at it period.

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