Is it Still Considered Rape if the Woman Enjoys and Even Climaxes

Question

Lets say a guy makes a couple of passes at a girl and she shoots hi down. Then after a couple of drinks where she is drunk, but still conscience he gets her into bed where she SAYS no, but still continues to engage with him; he doesn't use violence or hit her or anything like that. They end up having s*x with her later actively participating, even being on top at one point and she even orgasms. Would you still consider that to be rape?

Answer 1

it's still rape but it wouldn't really hold much in court

Answer 2

To quote wikipedia:

"Rape is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with or sexual penetration of another person without that person's consent."

If she really didn't want it, she would've used every means possible to fight back. I've had a friend who's been in this situation, and even when drunk she still managed to resist the guy firmly. Nothing happened eventually.

If she was physically unable to do so (drugged, beaten etc.) then it would've left a deep psychological scar on her, and, well, that's straightforward rape already.

In this case, it can be considered consensual because you can't count "after-morning regrets" as rape.

If the girl's a minor, then it's statutory rape.

Answer 3

NO MEANS NO  In any language

Answer 4

what ************* planet are you on............NO!!! ************* means NO!

Answer 5

do you have any plans?

Answer 6

This remind me of that peep show lol

the guy climaxes and was sooo uncomfortable!!

Answer 7

If she's enjoying it that much, then I think if she called it rape later she would just be doing it to **** the guy over and be seen as a victim. Sorry, but what you're describing is not really rape. Calling it "rape" in that circumstance is just an excuse.

Answer 8

This is a tough one, because she's saying no, but it's hard to tell if she means it. Nonetheless, no one should ever assume that no means anything but no.

Answer 9

Captain Pugwash is talking out of his/her a.rse and so are all the others who think no means no.  No does not in point of fact always mean no.  If for example a woman flirts with me but says no, then presses her b*****s against me but still says no, then touches me intimately but still says no, then I am going to take that as a yes.

If a woman enjoys rape that does not stop it from being rape.  It is not enough to say no however, she must say no and actually mean it and it is pointless saying no while at the same time using her body language and actions to titillate and lead a man on.

The facts are some women say no and mean no.  Some women say no and mean yes.  Some women say yes and mean no.  Some women don't know what the h**l they want and some women pretend they mean yes when what they really mean is they want to scheme and plot and manipulate using their sexuality to achieve their goals.

It is because so many women are less than honest regarding their intentions that we have a situation where no does not necessarily mean no.

Answer 10

Rape, sometimes called sexual assault, is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with or sexual penetration of another person without that person's consent. Rape is generally considered a serious s*x crime, as well as a civil assault.

so i would say yes

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Valid consent is also lacking if the victim lacks an actual capacity to give consent, as in the case of a victim with a mental impairment or developmental disability.

Consent can always be withdrawn before the actual sexual intercourse takes place, so that any further sexual activity after the withdrawal of consent constitutes rape.

Answer 11

If you have s*x with a woman who's drunk you are asking for trouble, and if at any time she says "No" you are stupid to carry on regardless no matter if she appears to be enjoying it.

Answer 12

If she says no and then continues to engage, then I don't see how it can be rape, if you mean engaging to be participating in sexual acts on him.

The last paragraph you said sounds dumb and immature.  

Answer 13

NO

Answer 14

I thought that just having s*x  with a woman who is drunk would mean you could face a charge of rape (after all someone who is drunk isn't entirely capable of making an informed decision about what they're doing and is therefore very vunerable)

Answer 15

Not really.

Answer 16

NO

Definitely not!

Answer 17

Yes it's rape, but I would have to sadly agree that there might not be enough evidence in court...The defense could use the situation against the victim, but the fact remains is that she initially said no, said no in bed, yet was coerced by the perpetrator against her original decision.  

Answer 18

not rlly if she only said it once, and still continued, but id consider it rape cause she didnt consent, she was drunk how could she, your nassy

well after reading details she didnt say no she did the s**y no sorta thing, all of us do that when youre with a guy he's cute you sorta wanna make out do whatever but you wanna pretend like ur a lady... a good girl so you shake your head and pout a little. no it wasnt rape lol,. but she was drunk i hope the 'guy' youre talkin about was drunk to.

Answer 19

This why a rape case is subject to so much investigation before charges are made. A very fine line and a women should be responsible for her own actions if she consumes excess alcohol.

Answer 20

It is still rape.

Guys need to learn this lesson:

No means No.

Intoxication means she is unable to legally consent.  s*x with a drunk person = Rape.

Achieving sexual intercourse through the use of relentless badgering, combined with the use of alcohol (which you very well know causes a person to make poor decisions) is NOT some sort of heroic act, no matter how many accolades you receive from your buddies for "nailing that ho."   It is a selfish violation of another person's body and it is a crime.

Answer 21

I guess if she actually engages and takes the lead then no i don't think it can be.

I feel that Barristers could argue with some success in a court, at just why did she take the lead if she meant no.

It is a fine line i have to admit :)

Answer 22

Yes it's still rape, because you can't control those reactions.  I don't think too many women would really enjoy it, although it is known that o****m can happen during rape.  But that does NOT mean she's consenting.  

On the flip side of things, people have said men can't be raped by women because they have to be aroused for it to happen.  Well, if you're going to take that stance, I guess you have to say that women who o****m haven't been raped.  But people with sense know better.

Answer 23

No.

Answer 24

Yes, it's rape.

She has already given him a no.  And then later she makes it clear that she doesn't want it.  But he has s*x with her anyway.

You say she participates and is on top at one point and also orgasms.  None of these things indicate consent.  They indicate that she has been coerced into doing whatever the man says because she is afraid.  

Sexual arousal and o****m are commonplace in rape; they are automatic responses that the body makes and not an indication of consent.

This whole story sounds like the retraumatising of a woman who has previously been sexually assaulted and who is too afraid to resist more strenuously because of her past experience (probably child sexual abuse).  She has said No, and once this has been ignored she resigns herself to her fate, which she does not enjoy, but she wants to get it over with as quickly as possible.

Congratulations.  You've just raped a woman who has probably already been abused as a child, because you ignored her when she said no.  Does that make you feel like a hero?

Answer 25

Probably wouldnt stand up in court  

Answer 26

In law...rape is a strict liability criminal action...meaning, regardless of intent, rape is a serious offense that can be indicted immediately.

Answer 27

Naww,

if she enjoys it, give her more!

Answer 28

Is there something unclear about "No means no?"  s*x with consent is s*x, s*x without consent is rape, there's  no in-between, fuzziness, fine lines, or anything else unclear in this scenario. She said NO, that means she EXPLICITLY DID NOT CONSENT, that means this scenario is RAPE.

Answer 29

She said no - so its rape.

Although her taking the lead later certainly muddies the water somewhat.

Hardly makes it look like she meant no. Could be one of those no means yes things ....

Although, personal opinion alone here - being drunk shouldn't figure into it. People can sign contracts while drunk, yet people don't tend to have those revoked on that basis. Why should it apply here?

Answer 30

If she says no, it's rape. That's what the woman will say, as along with the alcohol effected her ability to get away from the guy or some bullshit.