Is it delusional to say that every major scientific organisation supports AGW?

Question

Or would it be more accurate to say that a number of professional organisations that represent scientific professionals and one that represents a number of engineers have issued statements either exceeding, agreeing with or acknowleding the findings of the IPCC.

Answer 1

It is self-defeating to claim that EVERY major sci org supports AGW. Not every org cares, or is qualified to comment on AGW. Therefore, if they ALL do, that's only proof that they are all being stampeded into a nonscientific opinion.

Answer 2

I think it's delusional, inaccurate, and arrogant.

Not all scientists agree.  Not all scientific organizations agree.

The thought that they do is ludicrous.

Answer 3

Let's compare and see.

These scientific organizations, who all say that we're causing the warming and that we have reason to be concerned:

NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)

National Academy of Sciences (NAS)

State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)

American Geophysical Union (AGU)

American Institute of Physics (AIP)

National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)

American Meteorological Society (AMS)

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)

Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Bazil)

Royal Society of Canada

Chinese Academy of Sciences

Academié des Sciences (France)

Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)

Indian National Science Academy

Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)

Science Council of Japan

Russian Academy of Sciences

Royal Society (United Kingdom)

National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)

Australian Academy of Sciences

Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts

Caribbean Academy of Sciences

Indonesian Academy of Sciences

Royal Irish Academy

Academy of Sciences Malaysia

Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand

Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

The American Geophysical Union (AGU) alone has 50,000 members.

So which professional organization for engineers has issued a public statement against global warming theory?  How many members does that organization have?  How established and respected an organization is it in its field?

What, not even a single established engineering organization has issued a statement such as the one you allude to?  Are you deluding yourself?

Let's dig even deeper...

What engineers are so informed about climate that you would listen to them instead of climatologists and geophysical scientists?  Electrical engineers?  Chemical engineers?  Mechanical engineers?  Civil engineers?

I'm dying to see your evidence (links to sources please).  I'm also dying to see some justification for your reasoning that engineers matter at all!

Clearly Senator James "fossil fuels gave me $500,000" Inhofe's list of engineers that he posted to his blog in December is irrelevant.  Any new list created to avoid his clear financial ties to oil and coal is equally as worthless.  

About 6% of the public is in denial.  It's not surprising that some of those people are engineers.  

Perhaps we should compose a list of the 6% of administrative assistants who don't believe in global warming as well.  At least some of them will work for NASA or for climatologists and might have a little more credibility then those engineers!

indianaflywheels -

Funny how you make vague complaints about allegedly disparaging remarks, then issue tangible disparaging characterizations yourself.  Your own example graphically contradicts your claim regarding who is departing from a fair and rational discussion.

You also talk about science but offer none.  Why is that?

Answer 4

It is delusional to say that all scientists agree.  If you do some digging, and you really have to dig, you will find that all scientists that contributed anything to the report that was disseminated by the IPCC for their report, is said to have agreed with the IPCC conclusions, even if they really did not.

When someone tells me that E=MC^2 is wrong, I am interested.  I may not agree with them, but I would really like to know where they came up with their conclusions.  Yes there really are a few scientists that think that Einstein may have been a little off in his predictions.

Now when someone tells the AGW believers that they question the science behind AGW, those with questions are disparaged, and insulted.  Of course the debate is over, because the AGW believers REFUSE to debate.  Sure, they will post on Y!A, make a crappy movie or go on TV as long as it is a forum and not a debate, but where is the honest discussion?

The science is never settled, otherwise, it would not be science.

Answer 5

in general, yes.  scientists, in fact, don't always agree the sky is blue.  on the other hand, many do agree on the global warming issue.  personally, i'm fairly certain man has caused a great degree of global warming; i've understood this for years.  we live in a closed system, it has been altered radically.  you cannot replace farms and forests with factories, concrete, steel and asphalt without altering climatic conditions.

on the other hand we just had the second latest snowfall on record around here... .