Is it necessary for fighters to have to come to the US???

Question

I know what appears to be on the surface a very easy question....... but let's say hypothetically that another country has the universally accepted best fighter on the planet......a real dominate fighter compared to the opposition......... kinda like a foreign version of Roy Jones Jr in his prime or a young Mike Tyson..........I don't remember this being the case till this point, but if it happens does the old rule that the boxer has to come to America to prove himself still apply or since this boxer is recognized world wide as the best boxer does he now have the leverage to make the better fighters come to him in his country???

Answer 1

they could come to him but ppl would say he needs the home crowd to win and bull like that so yea he should definately come to the states a few times at least

Answer 2

For me personally, I don't think it should matter where someone fights. I'm more concern about who he fights, rather than where. If Bernard Hopkins had fought Joe Calzaghe oversea then I would have been just as acceptable about the matchup.

Several years back, when Roy Jones was running the light heavyweight division, I had dreamed of a showdown with Poland's Dariusz Michalczewski. Unfortunately, it never happened and we never saw proof of who was the better man. Jones wanted to have the fight in the US fearing he would get robbed, rather then go to Germany where Michalczewski did most of his fighting. With me feeling that Jones was greatly superior to Dariusz Michalczewski, I was hoping Jones would swallow his ego and fight Dariusz on his turf, proving that it didn't matter where a man fought at.

Answer 3

To Sum Up Blog's Answer ------Maybe

Answer 4

Yes.   We are better then everyone.

Answer 5

ITS NECESSARY COZ THEY EAT SLEEP & SH}T BOXING IN AMERICA

Answer 6

I love being an American (cue the music). . . .

. . . having said that, though. . . we are the most ARROGANT country around.  How dare we demand that fighters fight HERE in order to prove their worth?  Aren't they just as good wherever they fight?  Did Buster Douglas rely on Tokyo judges and traditions to bust up Mike Tyson?  If you do your job correctly, it shouldn't matter WHERE it happened. . .simply that it DID happen.  

Obviously, I know that judging has gotten a bad wrap for a number of years. . . .but bad judges and officiating occur everywhere. . . .especially here!  I can't prove it, but I'll bet there's more "home cookin" going on in the States than anywhere else in the world!

Answer 7

I hate to say it but a fighter wouldnt be able to be recognised as the best fighter on the planet without conquering America first. America has the most top echelon fighters and is renown as the home of boxing, it also has the top boxing media outlets for the whole world (ie the ring magazine) so what they think matters, so if you want to prove yourself as the top man in this sport you have to beat the best that America has to offer first.

Kostya Tszyu is one that stands out for me when talking about this, he was easily the best Light Welter out there for years and should of been number 1 pound for pound on the list at some point but never got the recognition that he deserved. Calzaghe will probably have to beat Jones Jr and Pavlik to be considered top three, he might then have to cut weight and get down to Welter and beat Floyd to become number one (only joking).

Answer 8

In a perfect world, where everyone was honest and corruption didn't exist, it wouldn't matter where two boxers fought.  In the real world Roy Jones Jr. gets the short end of  the worst home town decision the world has ever known, to a Korean fighter in Korea in the Olympics, and honest to God, I can't remember the Korean fighters name that's how corrupt and dishonest the decision was, yet they take American athlete's  medals away for using the wrong diet supplements years after the fact when the European female sprinters they beat for those medals looked liked Nikolia Valuaev in a dress.  A semi-castrated American cancer patient won 7 Toure De France bike races, in a row, a sports feat that ranks about as high as any accomplishment in sports, and sniveling elitist's cry foul, when the first race without Armstrong is won by another American and disqualify the guy for having TOO MUCH TESTERONE in his blood steam....give me a break.

There is a certain amount of respect the American state boxing commission's have that other agencies around the world simply lack.  That legitimacy remains from a time when America had the respect of the rest of the world.  Since Reagan the U.S. has been declining on the world stage, and under Bush America has almost become a pariah in some European and Asian countries.  I am old enough to remember a time when the U.S.A. was held in awe, with the utmost respect around the world, even by it's enemies.  Bush all but destroyed that, but hopefully that will change, the beauty of the American system of government is that it has the ability to heal itself.

As for boxing, it is necessary for the best fighters to fight each other, and it shouldn't make a difference where two champions fight, but it does.  There was a time when the best fighters were American for the most part, and to fight the best, you had to fight where best fought.  Because they were the best, the money was best, and usually America had the money, it was an economic thing, and ticket sales played a role in the location of the fight more so than nationalistic loyalty.

Calzaghe didn't have the leverage to make the world's best go to Whales, Darius Michaelczewski did it to an extent as did the Klitschko's, but on the whole, America is still where it's at, so your answer is yes, you have to come to America to gain the respect of the world boxing community.  But your question is so much deeper that Vegas and the East Coast being where it's at for top level boxing that I have to take it past non-American greats coming to Canastota New York, in the United States of America for the ultimate honor.

I understand that Rome, Greece, Many of the Chinese Dynasties and plenty of other civilizations through out history have left their mark on Humanity.  We just happen to be living in the beginning of the decline our our era's great Dynasty, and that is America like it or not.  When the globalists finish off the United States and turn everyone on the planet into their slaves, the world will miss the United States of America.  Christ I miss it now, but nothing lasts for ever.  As long as I am alive, America is still that beacon of hope to the rest of the world, and believe me there are millions just like me, I am nothing special in America.  American's however are special though out the world, whether you want to admit it or not.  There has never been a society like the American society in humanities history.

I remain an American, who understands the value of honesty, integrity and decency.  I remember a time when my country and government understood those same values, and I pledged allegiance to that republic and the it's flag.  I remain an optimist, and I think America can survive 25 years of conservative plunder by the ultra rich, and still return to the prominence it once held around the world.  We as a people defeated globalists before, twice in fact, and actually saved Europe both times in the process.  I can't believe greed is the downfall of a society as blessed as the American society.

Son, it is necessary for anyone to come to the U.S. in order to truly be recognized as "the best" at anything, boxing or otherwise, that is simply the way it is, and until the global elitist's plunder America to the point of third world status, that is how it will be.  Call it "American Elitism" or just plain arrogance, but like it or not, that's just how it is.  The rest of the world, envies and lusts after the amazing bounty most American's take for granted.  American's have been the world's elite for so long, they think it's theirs by divine right or something.  I don't like such arrogance any more than the next person, but since I am American, I tend to be a little biased on the subject.  Odds are good we will be around for a little while longer, and if boxers want legitimate recognition of historical greatness, it's in America, they have to come here to get it.