Is it selfish to expect Feminists to?

Question

Care about men's rights when not many men, men's rights activists or anti-fems care about women's rights and/or hold more importance to men's rights?

Thoughts?

Answer 1

I see this as a fallacy because feminism is a purported gender equality movement; and therefore should be focusing equally on men's and women's rights. This differs from "Men's rights activists" because they only have to focus on men's rights, not the rights of men AND women. It's like saying that g*y rights activists are 'selfish' because you expect them to focus on something like children's rights, etc. Sure it is selfish but they are not expected to focus on those other rights.

Answer 2

SO feminists should only be willing to help people who are willing to help them?

Being about equality means being about equality. PERIOD. If you stand for something you should not switch up just because someone else is not playing YOUR game YOUR way.

You don't run a RED light just because the guy in the Toyota did it...

Answer 3

well, most men under a certain age see women as their equals and  have spent their entire working life working along side women as equals.

given that we accept all your rights and support your rights, why should you not respect ours?

"not many men, men's rights activists or anti-fems care about women's rights"

yeah yeah, we are all rapists and child molesters too! if feminism wasn't so divisive, we could stand shoulder to shoulder on so many issues, but feminism has thrived on its us and them mentality and funnily enough, its that us and them mentality that is now turning every one off. contempt for and disinterest in mens rights is the undoing of feminism.

  

hope you are well ; )

Answer 4

Feminism is not into equality, it is a hateful movement looking for advantages for some certain groups of women only.

For sure, feminism does not even offer equality for ALL women, like for married women with boys (traitors of the own gender), for foreign maids working for a feminist household as nanny or room-cleaner ...  and I do not know any female employer, who pays a better salary to female workers than any male employer.

Feminists do not care about men and their problems.

Why should they care about sick and jobless men, old men, boys in school, soldiers...?

For feminists men are like tools, use them, and if broken, dump them....

Answer 5

What about the 90% of moderates that your overlooking. Most people are pretty tolerant of others right as long as you dont start taking thier rights away. If you focus on the 5% on each side that are at eachothers throats your gonna end up with a very bad view of the world and if you become one of the 10%  i say s***w you go spread your hate mongering somewhere else. And alot of moderates on both side actually want equality not dominion like the fanatics on either side.

Answer 6

Yes I think so. Women need equal rights just like men. I'm not a feminist, just a equalist. I'm all for making everyone equal.

Answer 7

No, it isn't. I think feminists should lead by example and focus on everyone.

Answer 8

They should if they want equal rights. If a woman gets more rights then a man then they should fight for lower rights..ok not that lol, but to raise mens rights up to theres cause then they be equal. Should work both ways to be equal.

Answer 9

I don't think so... I care about men's rights.  I believe in EQUALITY.  And that means supporting the rights of BOTH sexes.

I have had people tell me that I couldn't possibly be a feminist with my attitude... Well if all feminists are that selfish, then count me out- I wouldn't want to be one.

Answer 10

Feminists tend to be very narrow minded and unattractive so when I encounter one of them I try to be as generous as possible because they are a disadvantaged minority.

Answer 11

I see a lot more men caring for women's rights than vice versa myself.  I've seen many women on here say "fight for them yourself" when men complain about some injustice done to us in society, but then complain when men don't fight for women's rights.  Huh?  

It's a cycle.  Women want equal rights.  Men want help in some areas that traditionally favor women.  Some women don't want to do anything about those things.  Men decide they don't want to help women achieve their rights.  Women think men aren't helping them, so why should they help men out?  And suddenly men and women are divided.

Answer 12

People who want equal rights should care about every bodies rights. That goes for men who too.

Answer 13

I don't care if the feminists care about men's rights or not and I don't expect them to care.  I do however, find it hypocritical how many feminists keep on saying that feminism is about equality, but their action show completely otherwise.  They even do things that negatively affect men's rights.  Remember, feminists are the one who CLAIM that feminism is about equality in the first place.

You can't say that MRA are being selfish.  Unlike feminist, MRA are actually being honest about their goal and never claim that they're about "both men and women rights". MRA focus mainly on men's rights, men's issue and fighting for the rights that men have lost.

Answer 14

No it is not selfish to look out for oneself or one's community.  But feminists, as well as all others, would be better off caring about equality under the law for all.

Unless one prefers inequality.

Answer 15

Not really.  I see it all as "human rights" struggles through the years. I triage issues into ranking of most critical to least critical in importance at that time to society's overall health AND per which issue or violation of human rights cuts deepest to the humanistic quick. So, for example, although most politically active women back when I was in college were focused on second wave feminisim issues such as a woman's right to use credit cards and a woman's right to attend school pregnant, I felt it was more important to fight the FIRST wave feminism / humanism issue of men being sent to fight in a war and not being allowed to vote. From a basic triaging perspective, having one's life placed in jeopardy as a result of a human right's violation was more important to me and the humanism movement than even a woman's right to attend colleges without sexual discrimination.  In the same vein, the issue of mandatory registration with the U.S. Selective Service board is yet another VERY serious violation of human rights that is more important than is even the issue of the sexualization of young girls is for me.  I focus on women's rights more significantly as I age related to my lifelong work with children and my concerns for them and by how damaged they are by "gender" acculturations.  But, I keep a close eye on men's rights issues and would rise to fight first wave human rights violations committed against them based on their sexuality.  But, men are crying wolf too much and their so-called "human rights violations" all seem to always turn out to be merely THIRD wave or second wave issues that could be addressed fairly with the ERA, which men crushed.  Yet, women remain plagued by FIRST wave and early second wave human rights violations or discriminations and bigotries and so I think women AND men as a society will tend to focus on what's more important and focus most wisely on women's rights until societies are more stabilized and less children are suffering.

Answer 16

Oh but I thought feminists already DID care about men's rights. You keep using the words like equality so that would have to mean BOTH sexes. I see the cat is out of the bag, folks. Feminism is NOT about equality at all. More proof of their hypocrisy.

Answer 17

MRA's do a lot of whining about loss of rights in courts, etc.  Anti fems complain about radical ideas of fems and men whine about nothing that has any structure to it.

There are definately no defined ideas in place for men's rights by MRA's.  But then, men already have rights.  They just don't like women having them too.

It's similar is how men won't deal with their health issues in the same vein as women.  They are too ashamed to admit to fuglys like "prostrate cancer", "premature ejaculation", heart attack and cholestorol.

So with this immature attitude, then how are men going to deal with their so-called rights?