Is it true that when we are too ardent, we are less subtle?

Question

for instance, when we rush into pleasure. we blur all the subtle delights along the way?

Answer 1

It is hard to be subtle when you're caught up in the moment.  You're so intent on your goal that you miss the little things along the way.  And, it's the little things that can make the process so much better!

Answer 2

thats why we seek pleasure more than once in one setting(laying) or whatever

Answer 3

Yes, when you are too ardent ("too" being the operative word) you will fail to capture all the nuances. However, sometimes passion dictates that we rush into pleasure rather than stopping to smell the roses on the path.  

Answer 4

perhaps but is it not worth it if we succeed in a greater pleasure?

Answer 5

Yes, and that's why I like ardent people for the openness and sincerity of expression.... subtlety smells of conceit or deceit to me.

Answer 6

I think you're right. When someone is ardent, he is impulsive and unrestrained, so he pushes too fast and too far, and thus misses many things that he could savor. He can alienate people he wanted to like him by being domineering also. I'm studying science in college, and I've taken some philosophy too. I think a lot about such things as this.  

Answer 7

Well, I would think that it's kind of like being in a fast-moving car.  The speed blurs the scenery but it also thrills.  You wouldn't want that all the time--sometimes you want to enjoy the scenery--but it's fun occasionally.

If one is frequently rushing, then there's something wrong, but if it's just due to a prolonged period of being without, going fast is natural and one enjoys it as a unique experience.

I think what blurs subtlety most of the time is something that is rather opposite to ardor--namely, lack of energy.  Depression.  Lowered vibrations.  And the diminished awareness that accompanies them.

Answer 8

well..an enchanted moment, yes but the delights and textures of that time still echo in our thoughts during our body's slumber together

Answer 9

Yes ... too ardent = less subtle ... it's part of our hard-wiring.

Regardless of whether ardent is better, worse, or indifferent to subtle (as I believe some of the respondents articulated), your question is direct and, at some primal level, an inquiry about when (supposedly) our voluntary responses (smelling the roses along the way) give way to our involuntary responses (what rose bushes?!).

At the same time, from a purely semantics perspective, ardent is typically defined as "characterized by intense emotion" which implies a blurring (as you aptly mentioned).

Conversely, subtle means "making fine distinctions" which implies detail, analysis, a slowing down of the pace.

So, all-in-all, your statement "Is it true that when we are too ardent, we are less subtle" is accurate  

Answer 10

If you take these truisms "too much of a good thing is a bad thing," and "all things in moderation," to be actual fact then the question answers itself.  

Being "too" much of anything will lead to a negative end.  The weight lifter who attempts "too" much weight will invariably be harmed, or the excellent student who takes on 20 hours of college classes and a full time job, will end up in a stress coma.  

So being "too" willing to finish a task, will cause you to miss out on the pleasure of the actual task.  YES, it is true that when we are too ardent, we are less subtle.

Answer 11

Slowing things down allows the mind time to process the many messages sent to the brain individually rather than as a rushed group. Lingering delight.

Answer 12

Na. Not necessarily. Sometimes pleasure comes in the form of speed, emotion, and raw passion. Do the subtle thing about half the time, then explore other times.