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Is marraige and family really dead?

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Feminism seems to be copping the blame for this and my question is, how would Feminism achieve such a thing and what would be the point of it?

Could there be another reason as to why people aren't marrying so much anymore and the divorce rate is high?

Feminism hasn't broken up my marraige or family unit, so I'm just curious about all of this.

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  1. I think marriage has always been an institution engineered for the favor of women and children sometimes at the expense of men. And today, never before has it been a more stupid decision for a man to choose to get married (to a woman). You talk about something that makes no sense and will as often as not ruin your life- (I've never been married btw). Of course the stats say ' women's SOL goes down 30 % {while men's up 10%} after divorce- so *!CERTAINLY!* I see why all these women want to get married, of course they want to, why in the h**l wouldn't they.


  2. It's funny how feminism is blamed, because they only people I hear bleating on about how terrible marriage is (and how feminism has killed it) is anti feminist men.

    A lot of the men on here seem to think that women will fleece them through divorce. But if you are going into a marriage thinking that it's doomed to fail then it will.

    marriage is about love and romance, a union of two people, two soulmates.

    I proposed at 16, married at 18 and we will be celebrating our 7th anniversary in a few weeks :-))))

  3. Unless one is planning on having children, I'm not seeing the need for one to marry.  Relationships take work, and after working myself to the bone all day, do I really want more work?  

    True, freedom is not free.  But to paraphrase patriot Patrick Henry:

    Is life so dear & peace so sweet as to be purchased at price of human chains & misery??  I know not what course others may take.  But as for me, give me liberty, or give me matrimony!!!

  4. I think people are simply conforming to social norms.  Social norms say family and marriage is not needed, so more people don't do it...or divorce.  Frankly, I don't care what people do until they have children.  Children need a mom and a dad with a good relationship.

  5. "Could there be another reason as to why people aren't marrying so much anymore and the divorce rate is high?"

    There is a whole host of reasons: economic, geographical (families spreading out over the country for jobs), social, etc.

    Conservatives and misogynists like to blame feminism because they think it legitimizes their woman-hating and fear of liberal boogeymen.

  6. Feminism is partly responsible because it pushed for no-fault divorce. But if it had been available before feminism, the divorce rates would have been the same.

    As for marriage, people are starting to see how pointless it is in comparison to a paper-free relationship. While feminism has encouraged equal respect for single people, it has not told anyone to shun marriage altogether unless they actually want to.

  7. Feminism isn't to blame for the break up of marriages unless you take into account that "lawfully" in our history women who got divorced got practically nothing. I remember when my mother told me about the first credit she was allowed to get and that was in the early 1970's. I do think that less divorces would occur if women were not allowed to have the children, could not obtaine property or credit and also had very poor paying jobs. At least the stigma of a divorce is not as rampant as it used to be for women now.

    I am not sure that marriages aren't occuring as much as in the past. I could be wrong.

    If your statement is true and people are not getting married as much then I suppose the reason is, is that they are living together. Why pay for the cow if the milk is free?

  8. Feminism is a big part of it, you don't have to look very hard to find anti marriage and anti family literature and theory that has come from the feminist camp. The feminised legal system is making marriage less and less attractive. Many men understand that the father is now a disposable asset, and that feminised family law is easily exploited by the female.

    It does not surprise me that feminists are distancing themselves or even forgetting about radical feminism's goal to destroy the family, I expect that inability to apply critical thought to their own ideology. There's one now, up there in a blue dress, lieing.

    United we stand, we are now individuals rather than groups, dependent not on each other, but on the state and the state is spending more quality time with our children than we are.

    Of course there are exceptions, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.

    Hope you are well : )

  9. Interesting question.  Good things and bad things have caused the situation.  

    Women no longer rely on men for there needs in adult life.  So American women put off what women in other cultures still rely on.  However men realize that the family courts don't provide equal protections in the case of divorce or separation like they do for women.  There was a recent study that showed men are less scared of getting into marriage as they are about the results of an ending marriage.  Even prenups can be voided as worthless pieces of paper if the judge doesn't like the terms in it.

    Feminism may have some to do with the dying marriage and family, but I think it's only a small part of it.

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