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Is submission to a woman a major turn on or off for a man?

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I was joking around with some guy pals about how I thought it would be s**y if they were to wear eyeliner and then I teased them about how I am looking to find me a wife. I said I wanted someone to stay at home and do laundry and cook meals for me while I earned the money. One of my guy pals won't even look at me anymore when I see him. Was this a major turn off or did this embarrass or repulse him? Would this turn you on or off if a woman said this stuff?

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  1. I don't know if this counts, but I'm a woman and a man being submissive to me completely is a turn-off .

    EDIT: At Chanteuse: It's just my preference, thanks.  I didn't mean it in a bad way. This also has to do with me not liking guys chasing me, begging me or putting me on a pedestal.   It puts them in a submissive position, while I enjoy being submissive instead. ;)


  2. I am a straight guy who wears black eyeliner, black eyeshadow too and I have been in many conventional relationships with women, but I did not perform any of those traditional women's roles.

    I would only do them if I were living alone, if I were living with girlfriend, I would prefer that my girlfriend performed those tasks, except for cooking I suppose.

    In my profession makeup attracts more money and women. Besides I am not self-conscious and I don't care about what anyone thinks, I dress purely for my own pleasure.

    And about your guy pals, it seems like you may have triggered awkwardness, they must be sensitive men. If they are that sensitive to your thoughts than I would deem them to be terrible friends and also weak men, you should exchange them for more valuable friends like me.

    I don't take life as seriously as the average person, you could tell me anything; but I will not be submissive!

  3. Look... as "progressive" as society is today, the majority of men want to be the "man" in the relationship.  For lack of a better reason, to avoid being berated by their friends.  I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it's the way it is.  Men don't like to be degraded by women.  Traditional gender roles are still very much in place in American culture on at least an internal level with a large portion of the population.

  4. There may be one or two guys that would get off on the thought, but I think it would be a turn-off.  I know I would get pissed if a guy said that to me.  Most men wouldn't like the idea of being completely submissive.  Beside which, I think it would be a whole lot better to enter a relationship as equal partners, don't you?

  5. In the bedroom... it can be.... depending on mood.  But by no means do I respect a woman who thinks they are naturally in a position of dominance.  That is a turn off

    Dominance by a female... is one thing.  But dressing like a girl is not and being force "feminized" is not a turn on.  That really is a kink perversion that only a few like

    Dont get me wrong though... she doesnt have to be dominating... its sufficient that she just make the first move and try to show her s**y side.

  6. The whole make up part ehhh if I get intoxicated enough..lmao..  But nothing to get bent out of shape over.

             There are just different type of people out there.

    Some are more dominant than others some are more submissive than others and some are in between.

              If it was more advantageous in a relationship(suppose the wife made waaaaaay more money) there would be nothing dishonorable about staying at home and tending to the house and family.

          Problem is most guys don't have a clue what masculinity is and are so easily offended if they perceive it to be challenged. That are he is an ultra religious person scared of ending up in h**l...

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    P.S to the whole caveman argument as to why men don't want to be submissive is kind of short sighted. People have a fundamental right to freedom and self determination. Now if a person is trying to be a control freak.. there not being a caveman there just being a jerk.

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    Cavemen= went hunting for long periods of time. Some evidence that some pre-historical civilizations or tribes might have been semi-matriarchal. So your beginning to see the oxymoronic tone of using that term.

  7. Perhaps it is realy a role reversal relationship you are dreaming of, Betty. This reminds me of your question about Alpha females some days ago.

    The boys you asked about it, didn´t understand the flirtatious way you launched the idea.  Many of them are not amused about the imagination they should wear make-up or even gals´clothes and take their place in the kitchen while you would be the breadwinner, wearing the pants and taking the lead in the relationship, as an alpha female dominating a beta male.

    It is a sexual thing if a guy would like it or not, although it must not be realized by bdsm or kinky s*x.  There are some additional "social" arguments as well: In many aspects girls today are overtaking the boys ( the educational success creates confidence! ). So it may be that in future women - at an average - will get the better paid and more responsible jobs. And what can be the role of their partners?

    They must not be "submissive", but perhaps "supporting".

    The better you wrap it, the more you will succeed to seduce a guy to accept such a role of a beta male. Nobody wants to be teased or ridiculed.

    For me it is a turn-on.  I would volunteer if I were in the matching age and situation demanded.

  8. That's a shame miss.... you come off as a pervy creep..

  9. Err maybe in the bedroom, but not to the extent it being a daily routine of him wearing makeup, doing laundry and all that and basically acting like a "wife"

    EDIT: As for you're male friend's reaction I think he's being a bit too sensitive. Did he actually take you seriously? I would have taken it as a joke and laughed along.

  10. I think most "normal" men don't find this idea appealling, most men are like cavemen (at least the ones I've dealt w/) & couldn't bear the thought of submitting to a woman. Someone special would enjoy the idea of it though.

    @ Damsel: I agree with you, I'd rather be submissive to a man than the other way around.

  11. Your male friend should know that you were just kidding around. You may have to explain that to him the next time you see him. Basically, most masculine men wants a feminine women.

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