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Is the Chaos Daemons Codex for Warhammer 40k a supplement for Chaos Space Marines Codex it's own army or both?

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I have a Chaos Space Marines Army and I recently bought both the Chaos Daemons Codex and a Soulgrinder, under the impression that the Chaos Daemons Codex was a supplement. However after reading the codex I can't find anywhere in the codex that it is in fact a supplement. I then thought it might be both a supplement and an independent army, I was assured this by a person who has been playing warhammer 40k for much long than myself, but now it seems like I may have bought that soulgrinder for nothing.

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  1. Codex: Chaos Daemons is an independent army, entirely separate from Codex: Chaos Space Marines.  It has been widely moaned about by Chaos players worldwide that Chaos Space Marines cannot tap into the Daemons codex to take them as "official" allies.

    However, you haven't bought the Soulgrinder in vain!  For a start, it's a fabulous model and should be treasured simply on that level.  But it can also work perfectly well in a Chaos Space Marines army, standing in either for a Daemon Prince or for a Defiler.  Just make sure the nature of the model is made clear to your opponent at the outset.


  2. thesedays, there are two seperate chaos armys chaos deamons and chaos marines. while they cannot take each others forces by medium of allys, they can still fight together in many "doubles" tournements.

    Deamons, both greater and lesser, are still available in the chaos space marine codex, however they are just generic "summoned" deamons and dont keep any special rules like their codex :chaos deamons counterparts.

    The only link between the two is the deamon prince, who appears in the HQ section of the chaos space marines list and heavy support in the deamons list. GW only put it their cause they stocked up the HQ section already with "heralds" according to WD.

    since you bought the grinder, thats not so bad, its a trully awsome model if i do say so myself. you could use it as an excuse to start a deamon army, or might use it with the "count as" rule to use it as a defiler, since they are similar in size

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