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Is the biblical passage 1 Cor. 15:1 concerned with incest?

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The sense of this quote is unclear including the statement "as is not so much as named":-

"It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife." KJV

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  1. this doesnt match my Bible which NRSV

    in mine it means most churches have ppl who do not yet believe... In most churches only half are born again..


  2. The verse is 1 Corinthians 5:1.

    Yes, it's concerning incest.

  3. That's 1 Cor 5:1, not 15:1, but whatever it was, it was something that Paul was very much against, look at 5:5. Besides, what are you trying to say, that mankind today don't act in this way? Have you watched Jerry Springer lately? 2 Tim 3:1-5 tell us that there is going to be allot of things that God will be dealing with. Maybe it was a step mother, I would call that embarrassing, not incest! One thing for sure it goes on today, so I think we could assume that we now days did not invent incest.

  4. sounds like a letter to a church at the time.

  5. My version says it was his step mom. But Paul sure was upset with it.

    Anyway, under Mosaic law it certainly would have been incest, but besides any biblical law - man, that shix is wack. Even if she was a cougar.

  6. ! Corinthians 15 :1 reads:

    "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; "

    I think you have a typo and it should be ! Corinthians 5 :1:

    "It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. "

    Here the apostle states the case; and,

    Lets them know what was the common or general report concerning them, that one of their community was guilty of fornication, 1Co_5:1. It was told in all places, to their dishonour, and the reproach of Christians. And it was the more reproachful because it could not be denied. Note, The heinous sins of professed Christians are quickly noted and noised abroad. We should walk circumspectly, for many eyes are upon us, and many mouths will be opened against us if we fall into any scandalous practice. This was not a common instance of fornication, but such as was not so much as named among the Gentiles, that a man should have his father's wife - either marry her while his father was alive, or keep her as his concubine, either when he was dead or while he was alive. In either of these cases, his criminal conversation with her might be called fornication; but had his father been dead, and he, after his decease, married to her, it had been incest still, but neither fornication nor adultery in the strictest sense. But to marry her, or keep her as a concubine, while his father was alive, though he had repudiated her, or she had deserted him, whether she were his own mother or not, was incestuous fornication: Scelus incredibile (as Cicero calls it), et prater unum in omni vitâ inauditum (Orat. pro Cluent.), when a woman had caused her daughter to be put away, and was married to her husband. Incredible wickedness! says the orator; such I never heard of in all my life besides. Not that there were no such instances of incestuous marriages among the heathens; but, whenever they happened, they gave a shock to every man of virtue and probity among them. They could not think of them without horror, nor mention them without dislike and detestation. Yet such a horrible wickedness was committed by one in the church of Corinth, and, as is probable, a leader of one of the factions among them, a principal man. Note, The best churches are, in this state of imperfection, liable to very great corruptions. Is it any wonder when so horrible a practice was tolerated in an apostolical church, a church planted by the great apostle of the Gentiles?

  7. 1 Cor 5:1 in the NAB:

    "It is widely reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of a kind not found even among pagans--a man living with his father's wife."

    To "not even name something" is to not even speak of it.  He's telling them that others wouldn't even dream of doing this thing....s*x between parent and child.

  8. Um, sure sounds like it. He was naming a list of sins, and that would be a big one.  

  9. Uh, that would be the act of s*x with one's mother.  Incest or no, it doesn't sound like that would go over real well at church.

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  10. 1 Cor. 15:15 Now I make known to YOU, brothers, the good news which I declared to YOU, which YOU also received, in which YOU also stand,

    This is related to incest how?

  11. Possible incest; if the woman was the mans mother as well as his father's wife. It also depends on if the Father was still alive.

    Incest between a man and his widowed mother WAS known among the Gentiles, and likely known among the Greek speaking Christians. They were likely familiar with the Iambic poems of the Ephesian Hipponax including his attacks on the sculptor Bupolis for his publicly known incest with his mother.

    That may mean that this was worse. Maybe with the Father still being alive (and maybe somehow out of the picture).

  12. You probably mean 1 Corinthians 5:1

    Probably not.  Otherwise, why not say, "his mother," rather than "his father's wife"?  It was most likely his stepmother, unrelated by blood.

    "As is not so much as named [among the Gentiles]" appears to mean that not even Gentile non-Christians tolerated this sort of conduct, but condemned it also.

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