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Is the idea that water can be converted to hydrogen with a 12 v battery a realistic technology?

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There is so much enthusiasm for converting water to hydrogen to use with gas to power an automobile. Is it a feasable? or is it a false hope?

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  1. Yes, look at my other answers. I have answered this question several times now.

    It does work but is not a fuel substitute. It is a combustion enhancer.

    Look up "Water for Fuel" it is the best for the money. No I don't  have any connection with them, I just have done a lot of reserch on it.

    Go to Wikipedia and look up some articles.


  2. Very stupid idea.

  3. Absolutely.  Honestly, YES it does work. I have done this to my 96 Saturn and currently get about 50 miles per gallon.

    I wrote a blog review about it here:

    http://www.freewebs.com/isitworthmytime/...

    It's very simple. You don't change your engine or computer. A quart-size (95O cc) container is placed somewhere under the hood. You fill it with DISTILLED WATER and a little bit of BAKING SODA. The device gets vacuum and electricity (12 Volts) from the engine, and produces HHO gas (Hydrogen+Oxygen). The HHO gas is supplied to the engine's intake manifold or carburetor as shown below.

    Hope this helps.

    King

  4. The real tech is all about how to' enhance'  the combustion of the traditional gasoline dependant engine with the addition of hydrogen air. The idea is to slow down the release of gasoline into the combustion process by a major fraction and substituting that lost fraction with the correct amount of hydrogen, to maintain the same amount of work , needed at that moment. This idea is a proven reality with gasoline reduction rates as high as 65% over the same # of miles traveled. This is not pie-in-the-sky! Beware the natural gas salvation promise by 'Pickens'-he simply wants to hook you to his high-priced alternative-as compared to the price of water divided into hydrogen for real time use.He is yet another energy baron poised to seperate you from your money!

  5. yes but to get enough to power a car would take tons of electricity and the energy used to separate it is simply recycled into the hydrogen engine, which is in the first place extremly hard to develop and second you could just make an electric car witch would be quieter cheaper and cooler

  6. From everything I have read it is possible and being done

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    HHO it is called

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    Used as a supplement fuel to the gasoline in the car

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    I have not read any where where there is a only on the gas (no oline) that is able to operate a car engine

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    There will have to be a new carburetor to do that task the liquid one we now have is incompatible

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    A Hydrogen gas kind of wants to float away

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  7. The question is does it require more power to convert hydrogen than you get out of the fuel?

  8. Yes, this is a real technology that is available today. However, this is not a new discovery. The principal of seperating water into hydrogen and oxygen gas is called electrolysis. This involves passing a low voltage, high amperage current through two electrodes immersed in the water. You can demonstrate this technology yourself by using a dish of water, a nine-volt battery and some copper wire. when the wire is submerged in the water you should be able to see tiny bubbles forming on the wire. If you add some sulfuric acid to the water to act as a catalyst, you will notice that the gas production is much higher. If a bubble stays on the surface of the water, you can touch a lit match to it to show that the gas is flammable.

    However, for powering cars, this is not a very usable technology. Although it can power cars, it cannot do so efficiently. Compared to gasoline, hydrogen has a much lower energy density meaning it takes more hydrogen to do the same amount of work that gasoline can do. It also takes more energy in the form of electricity to produce the hydrogen than the hydrogen itself will give back.

    Currently, scientists have not yet found an efficient method to produce and use hydrogen in cars. They do however see better hope in fuels like natural gas and propane that many countries around the world have huge reserves of; enough to last the country another 70 years.

  9. every time you convert energy from one form to another, there is waste, usually a large percentage, like 75%. I believe it's the second law of thermodynamics that says, basically "you can't win, you can't get even.

          The best fuel saving technology ever invented is a bicycle.

          The second best would be a small vehicle, driven slowly

  10. not enough to help improve your fuel economy. All that water to fuel stuff you see on the internet is a scam.

  11. possible yes, probable no......we don't have the technology to make it a viable alternative to fossil fuel right now......then the other question is what type of water would be needed.....fresh water or salt water (which would damages an engine)....scientist should concentrate more on large energy supplies like power plants etc

  12. It's a con. When you do the math you get back less then 20% of the engery you put in back.

    Most of the poeple pushing this are more then happy to sell you the books, mostly e-books, or the devices to make hho or whatever they are calling it now.

    If it was that easy and that good they would be on new cars already, why would Chevy, Ford, Dodge, ETC give up the 40% or more increase in fuel mileage? If Ford thought it could be 40% fuel mileage with this device it would be on their cars and truck you'd see it in every ad. It would go something like this:

    "The new Ford F150 gets X miles per gallon more then Chevy, Dodge, etc"

    No it's a false hope and it'll cost you money for the books and parts, which is the best part of the con. If you do call and really get a person and you say it doesn't work, they simply ask you if part A is .0002 of an inch away from part B if not then there's your problem you built it wrong.

    That the best part of this con, if it doesn't work you, did something wrong, it's not the design. If you would just do it right it'd work.

    Save your money.

  13. I am 77 and have heard this all my life and have never saw it yet...

  14. the Idea of using Hydrogen as a fuel is very much feasible just that it would produce a very high amount of energy so we have to find a way to do it in a controlled manner ...

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