Is the three day death and resurrection on Dec. 25th a coincidence?

Question

In the Zodiac,

The Sun Reaches it lowest point in the sky on Dec. 22 and is dead (as the story goes) for three days. On the third day it moves one degree to the north. The Three Kings (three stars of Orion's belt) follow the North Star to the point in the horizon where the sun rises on Dec. 25th. (Resurrection) You may observe this this Christmas if you don't believe me.

Numerous other religions hold the exact same or very similar three day death and resurrection of their Messiah. Is their a coincidence?

Horas (The Egyptian Messiah) Was Born of the Virgin Isis on Dec. 25th. Died on the (Crux) and was resurrected three days latter. Why the similarities if Christianity is the one true religion?

Answer 1

Christians know that Dec 25th is not the birth date of Jesus.

Answer 2

It's all voodoo and hocus pocus built on fictional tribal stories.

Answer 3

I'm not holding my breath.  Assuming that Christianity is the true religion, like the end of your question states (which no one knows for sure and I will not go there either).....    Then if this happened around Easter, that would hold more possible meaning.  Christmas is supposed to be when Jesus was born.  Not that any of us will ever know while we live whether either of these dates are even correct in the first place.  So possible meaning,  but more likely coincidence.  Sorry all.  

Answer 4

hmm yea... too bad thats not the day of ressurection tardo.

Thats when people celebrate his BIRTHDAY... and thats not even the correct date of birth.

You should all get your facts straight :P

Answer 5

more proof it's all made up!

Answer 6

yeah I know, I saw it all in Zeitgiest

Answer 7

You are answering your own question.  Many of the Christian beliefs stem from previous religions.  Here are a list of things from the Pagan religion that was adopted by Christianity.

The Twelve Disciples Derived From Zodiac

The 27 books of the New Testament Canon is invalid

The name Mary is of pagan origin

The virgin birth is of pagan origin

The early life of Jesus is totally unknown

Jesus born in a stable and wrapped in swaddling clothing is of pagan origin

Miracles of Jesus are of pagan origin

Jesus' 40 day temptation in wilderness is of pagan origin

Earthquake at cross is false

Jesus Crucifixion was a Jewish human sacrifice of pagan origin

Jesus Side Pierced is of pagan origin

Jesus never actually died, two angels were only men

Ascension is of pagan origin

Jesus suffering to save us is of pagan origin

Jesus decent into Hades is of pagan origin

Jesus "hung on a tree" is of pagan origin

Jesus the "Rock of salvation" is of pagan origin

Jesus the "slain Lamb of God" is of pagan origin

"Washed in the Blood of the lamb" is of pagan origin

Baptism and the Lord's Supper are both of pagan origin

Phrase "Soldiers of Christ" is of pagan origin

Jesus as "the Shepherd" is of pagan origin

Lords Supper is of pagan origin"

The idea of "blood atonement for sins" is of pagan origin

Jesus "Begotten of God" is of pagan origin

Incarnate Logos of Jn 1:1 is of pagan origin, The "pre-existent angel" is a 4th century concept

The Trinity is of pagan origin

The "Lord's Day" (Sunday) is of Pagan Origin

Jewish Sabbath and the Sunday Lord's Day both of pagan origin

All of these things can be found in the book:  Paganism in Our Christianity, by Historian Arthur Weigall  

Answer 8

First of all, the feast (and date) of Christmas was not established until the Fourth Century, in an attempt to co-opt a popular pagan feast.  The first few centuries of Christianity had no concept of "Christmas".  In fact, Christianity doesn't really celebrate birthdays.  The only exceptions are the ones dependent on other events in the Church calendar. (Birth of Mary nine months after the feast of the Immaculate Conception, Birth of John the Baptist six months before the birth of Jesus)  The feastdays of most saints correspond to the dates of their deaths, when known.

Secondly, the folks at Zeitgeist made up the "three kings" reference for Orion's belt.  No one else has ever regarded the belt stars as "kings".  Even so, the assertion that they "follow the North Star to the point in the horizon where the sun rises on Dec. 25th" is ludicrous.  The pole star is as far from the celestial equator (Zodiac) as you can get.  "Following" a line from Orion through the astronomical pole to the opposite side of the sky will get you to the approximate location of the sun (not "where it rises"), but that isn't something one can observe.  Orion fades and sets before the sun ever breaks the horizon.  You can only imagine it in your head, and they've certainly chosen a far more complicated way to describe this non-event than any shepherd or farmer would think about it.

It was a very popular thing to ascribe the birth of mythological heroes to the darkest part of the year, and Christianity followed along well after the fact, knowing that it was a made-up day for the commemoration.  The birth of Jesus is not the point of Christianity anyway.  The death and resurrection is.  You might want to investigate more carefully the three-day claims of various religious characters.  The circumstances vary greatly, and even when they match, it's just the common human perception that any body that hasn't moved for three days is inarguably dead. (Have you noted the heated arguments about whether Jesus actually spent the full 72 hours in the tomb?)

Borrowing a motif from another faith or common experience does not amount to a validation or invalidation.  Bread means basic sustenance in a variety of cultures.  An extended hand means either supplication or help.  The number three resonates in a lot of cultures as an indicator of compact, stable completeness, like a three-legged stool.  The mythos of Christ has nothing in common with that of Horus, Osiris, Dionysius, Mithras or Krishna, beyond a few trivial (and not universal) coincidences.  The Gnostic faction likely tried to make Jesus into another transcendent Mithras figure, but they didn't win the day.  Theirs was an impractical, self-destructive "Christianity".  But even theirs had nothing to do with the zodiac.

All the zodiac does is provide recognizable seasonal landmarks for farmers, who are far more interested in planting and harvest times than the linear track of history.  Right or wrong, Christianity envisions a complete arc of divinely directed history, from creation to Judgment Day, not an endless spiral of dry and wet seasons.

And I don't know why you needed to refer to "(Crux)", other than to allude to a latter-day constellation in a random part of the sky that just happens to be called "cross".  The constellation "Crux" was unknown to the people of the Northern hemisphere until the age of discovery, post 1300.  Part of your argument falls apart simply because your facts are anachronistic.

Answer 9

Considering that the modern calendar didn't exist in its current form until it was completely revamped in 1582, any such supposed observations are highly suspect at best.

Answer 10

It is a well known fact, at least it should be, that early Christianity assumed pagan holidays as a "marketing ploy".  The connection between early Christianity and the cult of Mithras is an interesting conjecture but so far that is all that it is.  Granted the three day cycle is similar to other religions but there still needs to be more conclusive evidence to tie them together.

Just my point of view as an atheist.

Answer 11

Ask for sources of your "facts."  And by source I don't mean "Zeitgeist."

Answer 12

That's a great point!

Take that you silly Christians who think Jesus resurrected on Dec 25th!

HA-HAW! *points and laughs*

Answer 13

I'm all confused with your question.  Are you asking about a death and resurrection which both took place on Dec. 25th?  Or are you asking about a three day death at some other time during the year (oh, say, July 4th) and then a resurrection on Dec. 25th?  But, what happened in between all that time?  Was it death, zombie state, party time, hangover, alien abduction, amnesia?  Hmmm...these things are awful hard for me to figure out

Answer 14

Because the early Christians realized that the best way to convert pagans was to have their awesome parties at the same time.

Answer 15

The star figures in the sky form a very precise map of the heavens and display many allegories which have been preserved as Greek myths. But much more than that, the Book of Enoch states that the angel Uriel revealed them to the prophet Enoch, long before the Great Flood. When he came to understand their meaning, it records that he exclaimed,

I blessed the Lord of glory, who had made those great and splendid signs, that they might display the magnificence of his works to angels and to the souls of men; and that these might glorify all his works and operations; might see the effect of his power; might glorify the great labor of his hands; and bless him forever." — Enoch 35:3



An angel reveals the

constellations to Enoch.  If the constellation signs truly came from God, they then would be of great importance. But could the constellations really be that old? Didn't they originate with the Greeks? It turns out there are scientific ways to date the origin of the entire Greek set of star figures. There is a circle in the southern sky in which no ancient constellations are found because that area always stayed below the horizon of their author (See Figure 1). The circle of invisibility slowly moves, so its location can be used to provide a rather precise date of origin. Its position indicates that the constellations predate the ancient Greeks by some 2,000 years.[1] The origin date of about 2900 BC fits Enoch's lifetime perfectly, supporting the Book of Enoch's claim. If it is true they began with Enoch, then the study of the original set of constellations should prove to be marvelous. Indeed, they would be a testimony of God echoing to us from before the Flood

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Answer 16

zietgiest, good movie.

Answer 17

Shhh...

Christians might find out that their entire belief system is based on ancient mythology and superstition!!

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