Is there a bit of dual standards between the sexes..?

Question

Let me describe what I mean with an example:

It seems quite socially acceptable for women to have public converstations about men being attractive... comments like: He's so fit, s**y, hunky whatever word is chosen is more than often tolerated. A girl having a picture of a semi clothed male star on their wall is not really any focus of attention.

by contrast if men take part in such activity they are chauvanists who only view women as s*x objects.. It is almost the default opinion that men think this way and must proove otherwise. Whilst women are some kind of virginial saints who should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Any thoughts people or other examples...?

Please no well men had it their way so long its time for a taste of your own medicine. Thats not a valid argument I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors. Are modern generation Germans n**i's... no so don't go there.

Answer 1

I don't know where you listen to public conversations, but I hear men talking about cute women more then women talking about cute men...

I deem neither s*x as being chauvinistic (men) or S****y  (women) for carrying on in such a fashion...

Most women I know would never hang a s**y photo of a man anywhere...  whereas in comparison, the s**y photos stereotypically seen in a man's locker, or auto mechanics (yes -all my mechanics have them posted), etc,. are scantily clad or partially nude.  

Saints?   No, probably not.   Just a lot less focused on s*x then men.

Of course there's a dual-standard.   It's been that way since the beginning, and it isn't going to change anytime soon.

Answer 2

This is an awesome topic. However it's a hard topic to approach and argue it well seeing as how different people have different views on society, but for the most part you are right (actually I agree with you 100%).

Women are allowed to say and do things that men can't, some are quite strange however, it's not wrong; ex. 95% of women need a female partner to go the restroom, women can call other women attractive, and as you previously stated, women can have posters of men and judge men as they walk by. This is how society evolved I suppose, after women got equal rights as men in America.

However, guys can approach a girl and give her a compliment because it's typical guy behavior, whereas if a girl were to do that then she would be a hoe or just desperate. Society nowadays is strange, there's many social barriers that have been created, although some should be up, for obvious reasons.

To tell you the truth, I really don't know when the tide shifted to men having to argue everything they do because if not then they'll be called chauvinists pig, sexist b*****d, etc. Kind of strange.

Good topic by the way, I just have to many thoughts rushing right now so I can't answer clearly.

Answer 3

Yes. This does seem to be a double-standard.

On the other hand, I know few men who find such talk creepy, threatening, or demeaning (though there are women who take it way too far -- I say, as I suddenly recall Nathan Fillion complaining on his blog about being at a party having to avoid grabby women -- it's no more right to be grabby with a guy than with a gal).

I actually find scantily-clothed men posters offensive in an office setting.

In other settings, I'm only offended by normally-covered, uh, private bits being shoved in my face -- of either s*x -- but don't find a sorta-clad woman poster offensive per se.

I do also want to bring in history as being relevant here. Not that YOU are responsible for the actions of anyone not-you, but that it goes far in explaining the difference in attitudes.

Not long ago, many accepted that always remarking on women's looks -- in the workplace for instance (with the implication that we were there purely for decorative purposes) -- was a compliment. That has taken a LOT of really hard work to get people to stop.

And, I'm offended by such talk about men in the workplace, as well.

In fact, although I'll murmer to a friend that there's a guy with a nice butt, or something, it IS rude to be loud enough to be overheard, especially by the guy in question.

More people need to realize that what's offensive regarding women is also offensive regarding men.

Especially if it has to do with, uh, what one would like to DO TO said person. (More people realize the creepitude and scariness of this when it's directed at women, fewer that it's equally creepifying when directed at men.)

Basically, it's never right to humiliate anyone, or creepify anyone, or demean anyone.

We all know that we all evaluate others' anatomies; but we should all keep them to ourselves, or at least out of general hearing.

Answer 4

yes there is a double standard between male and female. women are preseived to be  acceptable on what they say or do. as far as the s*x thing i wouldnt have used that example because men are more sexually inept. there are more partually nude female posters than the other way around and men arient deemed to be chauvanistic for looking at what they like women on the other hand are deemed to be S****y if they have that or even if they have had s*x with more than one person where guys are praised. look at ron jeremy for example. or tommy lee. Granted i do see your point on this. the say of a women is held to a more sophisticated degree and it is annoying because its made out that noone is equals but your argument is flawed by using that example. also you should take into account geography. where im from the south east. there is a difference here than say new york or l.a. not to mention i live in town not a city so views are different