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Is there a guaranteed way to win on horse racing?

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Are there any calculations to use that will guarantee success whn gambling on the horses?

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  1. There is no gaurantee, but if you study, devote a good bit of time to handicapping races, preferrably before you get to the track, and bet in a dsiciplined manner, you should be able to come out ahead in the long run.

    I keep track of every race I handicap, even if I don't bet it. I use this to keep a running percentage of how often I pick the winner of a race. (I pick slightly more than 25% of the races correctly.) I decide to bet them based on these percentages and how sure I am of the pick. For example, since I pick about 25% of races correctly, I will look for a horse going off at longer than 3-1 odds. If my pick is going off at less than that, I will not bet that race. If I have picked a horse, but am not very confident in that horse, I will only bet it at even longer odds, 6-1 or longer.

    This means you will watch a lot of races without betting on them. It also takes patience. You may hit a long losing streak. I bet 5% of my betting money each time I place a bet so I will not run out if I hit a bad losing streak.

    As a general rule, you should not lose more than the track takeout over the long haul. Most tracks in the US takeout between 16-20% of ever dollar bet. So if you bet $1000 over the course of a season and have less than $800 at the end of the season, you'd have been better off picking numbers out of a hat.

    Of course this all applies to win bets only. There are lots of different bets. Superfectas may pay out really big, but you may play a whole meet without winning one. I place trifectas and exactas sometimes if there is a really clear favorite going off at 1-5 or something like it. You can place show bets, which will produce a lot of winning tickets, but not a lot of won money. I used to bet a lot of show bets on favorites, but got tired of winning 50 cents on $10 bet. It takes a lot of winning bets to make up for one lost one that way.

    There is a saying that you can beat a race, but you can't beat the races. I would argue that is backwards. You never know what could happen in the next race, but if you study the races, handicap thoruoghly and bet in a disciplined manner, you can come out ahead in the long run.


  2. yea gamble on every one!!

    there is now way to tell the future and if there was life wouldn't be so fun and exciting

  3. yes. don't bet

  4. Only the bookies win

  5. It's called gambling for a reason... there is NO guarantee. A lot can happen in a horse race in the blink of an eye. You can increase your chances by looking at past performances, taking into account track surface, equipment changes, the horse's connections, speed figures, etc., but there is always risk involved in betting on horses.

  6. Become a bookie.

  7. Do not BET!

  8. no mate - take my advice though and don't bet on the outsiders! I tried and it failed miserably

    http://15minutesofinfamy.wordpress.com/2...

    In all seriousness though - check BetFair radio - its a real good source of tips....

  9. e-mail me direct and i will send you my best bet at del mar today.

    bwj1963@yahoo.com.....should win for fun at 6/1.....

  10. Firstly - looking at "inside information" This is a bit like some of you guys that are Freemasons. Think you are in this wonderful society with three degrees, or ranks. Mostly carrying that belief to the graves, not knowing that there are 33 degrees, but only "the few" are aware. Same with horse racing - the trainer knows the time of day - lets some other people in , the big owners etc. and the small owners get the sops. Forget about stable lads etc, they only know that a horse is fit. The farrier can usually have a pretty good guess though...... The other variable of course, is that when they all get to the course.. three or four trainers are all trying, so it is still a gamble !!

    There was a system touted around in the 60's called "the Dawson System" I looked at it and I still believe that if you have got the will power to stick to it you can make a living from it.

    Firstly you need a GOOD selection process so you only consider the PRINCIPLE meeting of the day.  This is because of the idea that there is most prize money so horses will run better to form.

    Secondly. You will be involved in each race so need to make a selection from each race..They used the old "Speed Plus" in the then Sporting Chronicle which was brilliant, giving winners up to 20-1. Whatever method of selection you choose, stick to it...

    Thirdly you need a bank. In those days I think it was £500 to make a £1 a race. (Never would get anywhere near using half, but just in case)

    Thirdly..betting...... back the first race to win the £1. if lose back the second race to win the £1 you didn't win on the first race, the £1 aim for the second race and the stake you lost on the first race.

    So if the first horse was even money. you put a £1 on it. It loses, so the second race you are betting to make £3 so if it is 3-1 you bet a £1 win. If it loses the next bet is cover to win £5 and so ontil you get a winner. Then you start all over again.

    In those day of course there was betting tax to calculate as well, but much easier now.

    So...if you have a Good Bank... A good Selection system...have a go...make a living from the ""Sport of Kings""

  11. yeah  get in on the race fixing

    they are all fixed

  12. forget systems and form guides,follow the betting,compare prices in any newspaper against the prices on the screens at the bookmakers the biggest discrepancy between the odds is usually the one to put your money on,not 100% but it will get you big price winners

  13. best method.

    study the form of the horse, the ground it is running on does the horse like the ground.

    what is the Jockey like on the horse.

    as the horse won in the past is it  ready for a win.

    other then that it is down to lady luck on the day if you win

    regards x kitti x

  14. There's no calculations and no formulas to memorize.  It's not that easy.  It's like roulette...  it's random.  You can't use mathematics to break the system because there is no system.

    There are things you can do to make yourself a better handicapper.  Continue going to the races and studying the form and the horses.  Watch racing on television and make bets with yourself.  Pick out which horse you think will win and use exotic bets...  see if you can pick the superfecta...  see if you can pick all the horses in a pick 4.  And the most important thing you can do is to study horses.  I've been working with horses for years but didn't seriously watch racing until this year, but I've been pretty good at picking the winning horse just by looking at the horse itself...  Many times I've picked a horse at around 8-1 over a heavy favorite and turned out to be right.  It's a great thing to be able to look at a horse and know how fit and healthy it is and know how it is feeling on this particular day.  It's important to know both how to study the racing form and how to look at a horse...  that way you can make your early selections with the form, then decide during the post parade and while the horses warm up which horses will do well in that race.

    There's no way to be sure you'll win.  No one wins all the time.  But like anything else, if you study and practice, you'll get better.

  15. yes , be the owner of most of the horse in the race

  16. Be professional.  Research and only bet what you can afford to loose.  When that's gone, stop.

  17. own at least 4 of the five horses in the race and have your very best friend own the fifth.

  18. Of course there isnt!  Thats like me saying - is there any guaranteed way to win the lottery!!

  19. there is a guaranteed way, but the average man on the street wont be able to do it.

    forget reading form, this method is for old men in betting shops, and for people who think they can beat the system.

    The only way to win is through information from trainers, track spies and professional gamblers.

    I know a lot of people that make big money from betting horses, and Id say that not one of them has looked at a racing post, or used a "system" for years.

  20. my ex was into mates at the stables passing on bets, the odds and all that result?98000 thats ninty eight thousand pounds in debt, hes about to lose his home and his car he took loans out on everything and lost gambelling on horses,

  21. There is no 100% guarantee but consider "Dutching" all but the donkeys. You can get free dutching calculators off the web. If you are not familiar with the term then google it to find out a bit more.

    You sound as if you want to back horses but you may want to consider laying them instead. Have a look at Betfair for this and again consider dutching them when you lay.

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