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Is there a way to trace people from the 18th cent other than bmd records?

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When I see peoples trees they have gone right back to about 1545 and I think, how?!?!?!

so other than BMD is there other ways???

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  1. There are many things that are considered to be a "record". When you speak of bmd, you are normally referring to the birth/marriage/death documents that were mandated by the government.

    Prior to this.. people still had information. I am extremely surprised to hear that church records had to be "paid" for.  Prior to official documentation, most persons were religious. Not all, of course. Most. Certainly, historically speaking, church affiliation was mandated by authorities.. hence, one (of many) reasons why you found people wanting to leave England, and immigrate.

    More affluent families owned land, and who was to inherit land has always been a matter of knowing who was a son (or daughter) of someone. The same applies to nobility and royalty, since they inherited not just land, but titles. For obvious reasons, many of these same families will wind up in history books, thus the books become a record. Just as now.. not all historical books will be accurate.  Women may not have been ones to inherit.. but due to alliances, those relationships were noted. For instance..John married Jane, daughter of Richard.. and thus, John becomes a "heir" since he owned what was due to his wife. Men (and women) left wills, to dispose of their estates.

    Records are not always in the form of paper.. a tombstone often mentions a relationship. It thus is a record of a relationship. ANYTHING that reliably indicates a relationship is considered a record... the word "reliably" being the key idea here.  Not everyone will agree how reliable any record is.  Many persons utilize the Bible as a document, and it is, to an extent. The question is BETWEEN the Bible, and later records.

    Every single lineage is different, which is exactly why I call genealogy a kind of game. The purpose of the game is how many records can YOU find, concerning YOUR ancestors. Of course, just because I call it a "game" does not mean that there are not basic rules/ standards. Overall, you use whatever applies to YOUR family/ancestor, and it's up to each researcher to evaluate if any lineage is reliable, or not, and WHY.


  2. Yes through the Parish records. Nottinghamshire  family history society sell the C.D's, or you could try this place for the relevant copy for the area where your family have their roots set.

    http://www.genealogysupplies.com/

    I think that most family history societies have this information on C.D's now.

  3. Parish records but you have to visit the records office where they are stored which you can only do if you know where they were roughly born.

  4. There is a book available called;

    Loshem Kabbalah Archaeology of our DNA.

    avail:@www.i-proclaimbookstore.com

    It teaches you many things but basically it focuses on teaching you how to access information from your DNA through Loshem meditation techniques. A method of meditation used by Abraham and Moses among a few others.

    Let me know how you make out - by the way - one thing you will find is that, your soul is you and remains you throughout the many bodies you will inherit.

  5. I wish I knew what "BMD" meant so I could give a better answer, but I have no idea what it means.

    So, I will say "yes".  A few years ago, one of my cousins sent me a large envelope, pages printed both sides, hundreds of pages, showing his ancestry back to the 1400s.  Where it came from is simple: FAMILY HISTORY (records kept by his family, which is my Mom's Mom's family, going back those several centuries).

    By other sources, books, websites, I have been able to verify much of the information my cousin sent.

    People on ancestry Yahoo! often say records.  For the most part, records (other than family Bibles and other personal records) DID NOT EXIST.  The U.S. required official records BEFORE Germany (which did not even unify until mid-1800s), France, England, Switzerland or Austria).  Church records were available back several centuries BUT they would not register a birth UNLESS PEOPLE paid for it!  So, MOST people never had a church registration. If people did not pay upon birth, the fee became higher and higher; most people could NOT afford it.

    So, basically, FAMILY HISTORY RECORDS or HISTORY (of famous persons, such as Charlemagne).

    I have traced SOME of my ancestry back to Israel, Turkey, Egypt by paper trail to before Christ.  Probably not very accurate, but my DNA shows a similar trail.

  6. If you know which town they were from you could go to the churches and they will have records of births deaths and marriages, they can go back centuries, or you can go to the records office and look at the parish records there

  7. You do a search on the International Genealogy Index which is part of the www.familysearch.org website.  But be careful there as some of the answers have been put in without it being confirmed.

    You need to look at the last area of known residence through the 1841 Census, this will only give the information of the persons name and the area in which they were living, no addresses.  It will give the information of the county in which they were born, or if out of England, Wales or Scotland, it will just say the name of the Country.

    I have looked in the Record office, and if you can search on the internet you may be able to find people who are studying the same name as you.  I have used www.genesreunited.co.uk  

    www.ancestry.co.uk

    There is the church records "Parish Records" for the areas, unless you are non- conformist.

    Try finding the local family history group and get some support.

    Good Luck

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